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Old 11-26-2010, 11:13 AM   #1
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Michelin or Toyo for Journey?

I guess I need to start thinking about new tires for my 2006 Journey. I only have about 16000 miles on the rig but the sidewalls of my Michelin XRV tires are showing signs of stress cracking. I'm thinking about trying Toyo tires as a replacement, only because the Michelins seem to have given up kinda early. I know the tires should be replaced every 5 to 7 years so I guess I'm about due. Does anybody have any pros or cons on the Toyo versus the Michelins?

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Old 11-26-2010, 01:22 PM   #2
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I put Toyo's on my 05 last year when I bought it. The Michelins that were on it had sidewall cracking. I have had no problems with the Toyos.

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Old 11-26-2010, 02:15 PM   #3
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My local Motorhome Tire dealer says they recommend Toyo Tires for replacements of the XRV's. (See my recent tire post in the Workhorse Chassis forum). We might wait until after next Summer to replace our XRV's, and most likely will go with the Toyos. They are about $100/tire cheaper than the XRV's, with the same warrantee and tire wear warrantee. If you do a search, most over the road truckers swear by the Toyos.
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:27 PM   #4
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I put Toyo's on my 05 last year when I bought it. The Michelins that were on it had sidewall cracking. I have had no problems with the Toyos.

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Ronnie, what size and model Toyo did you put on your Journey?

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I put M154s on my Tradewinds and have put on 11K trouble free miles this year. Previously I had Michelins. I feel the Toyos ride better and saved me about $1000.
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Old 11-26-2010, 03:32 PM   #6
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Ronnie, what size and model Toyo did you put on your Journey?

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I put M154 265/75 R 22.5

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Old 11-26-2010, 04:05 PM   #7
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I put M154 265/75 R 22.5

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Thanks Ronnie, that looks like its allmost an exact replacement size for the Michelins.

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Old 11-26-2010, 04:34 PM   #8
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What is the manufacture date on your tires? I noticed your coach is an 06.
Michelin RV tires should have a 5 year warr against cracking. Have them looked at by a real Michelin dealer.
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Old 11-26-2010, 05:57 PM   #9
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Thanks Ronnie, that looks like its allmost an exact replacement size for the Michelins.

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You are welcome Sammie. The dealer said that they were the closest size to the Michelins.

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Old 11-26-2010, 07:10 PM   #10
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What is the manufacture date on your tires? I noticed your coach is an 06.
Michelin RV tires should have a 5 year warr against cracking. Have them looked at by a real Michelin dealer.
Also a good idea okgc. I'm just concerned that the tires are so close to the 5 year date that the prorate would be next to nothing. Still a good idea and worth a visit to the Michelin dealer.

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Old 11-26-2010, 07:19 PM   #11
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i have an 06 meridian with 255/80R22.5 they are doing the same thing, i have 16,000mi on the coach the tread is still deep, but the side walls are cracking. i found a set of 6 goodrich tires 275/80.22.5 today. they are a little bigger, but will fit my wheels. 2,600.00 turn key installation. amazing much cheaper than michelin and goodyear. i haven't checked toyo, but hearsay is they are good tires. i'm going with b f goodrich.
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:33 AM   #12
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Sammie - be sure to talk to Michelin. I bought my Journey in July '04 and started seeing premature cracking in late '07. Went to Michelin dealer 12/07 and Michelin paid 90% on the tires and I paid the labor. Total cost to me was $800 for 6 new XRVs mounted and balanced. The dates on all the tires were less than a month old.

I think I read recently that guys were having trouble finding 255/80x22.5 XRVs with recent DOT dates. Might be worth accepting tires that have been in the warehouse for a while for a price like that...
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:40 AM   #13
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We have had a trucking Company for 20 years. We were always Mich tire people. Reason? They recap better than any tire. I bought a tractor with new Toyo and they ran longer than we ever had Mich run. I'll buy Toyo to put on my MH when I need tires, guaranteed!!!!! And no I am not a Toyo dealer!LOL
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Old 11-27-2010, 10:28 AM   #14
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Love my TOYO tires out here in the NW. I like their casings and have not felt their was an issue with a harder tire up (most of my driving is in hills and tar snakes). Tacks just fine, and I enjoy Les Scwhabb price and warranty. HOWEVER...check your location and majority of RV'ing regions you are traveling to going to and make sure that they carry WHATEVER brand you get in a reasonable time (I must admit, that I did not do that as I am ok with taking a couple of extra days for the tire to come in if worse comes to worse, Plus I have a spare). I have to say I have owned a Moving company and have also like Michelin as well. It really all depends on the tire and it specs, casing, air, driving styles, road conditions...but I feel that whatever TOYO and MICHELIN you get I believe you would be satisfied from their authorized retailers!
I believe the toyo has the size you are looking for
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Old 11-27-2010, 10:43 AM   #15
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Sammie - after looking back at my paperwork, I have correct my previous post... Michelin paid 80% of the tire price. I paid 20% + tax and labor. The percentage is based on tread wear not time in service.
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Old 11-27-2010, 11:10 AM   #16
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Sammie - be sure to talk to Michelin. I bought my Journey in July '04 and started seeing premature cracking in late '07. Went to Michelin dealer 12/07 and Michelin paid 90% on the tires and I paid the labor. Total cost to me was $800 for 6 new XRVs mounted and balanced. The dates on all the tires were less than a month old.

I think I read recently that guys were having trouble finding 255/80x22.5 XRVs with recent DOT dates. Might be worth accepting tires that have been in the warehouse for a while for a price like that...
Thanks Tom, Your words of wisdom clenches the decision to go to Michelin first before I just run out and buy new tires. Were all your tires cracking or just some of them?

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Sammie - the 4 visible tires all looked about the same. The dealer didn't even bother to check the inner duals. Like you, I really didn't expect much, but Michelin really stepped up and made me a happy camper. Hope they will do the same for you. Good luck!
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Old 11-27-2010, 12:48 PM   #18
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I have a 2004(second owner) Itasca Meridian and was experiencing Michlin tires cracking, checking, etc. The tires were 6 years old and when not being driven the Motohome is kept inside. Michlin sent me to Camping World to have them evaluated. Camping World said they could not evaluate the tires. With all the posts about Michlin tire problems and Michlin themselves having a chart showing how much checking is acceptable, I went with Yokahomas. For me, no amount of checking is acceptable. Granted there are more Michlins on RV's than any other brand so it would make sense that they would have more problems. Even if Michlin were to replace the tires for free I would pass on them. My life is not something I want to gamble with.
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Old 11-29-2010, 11:59 AM   #19
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I have a follow up question, my 2004 Vectra is new to me, front tires are 2 yrs old and the rears need to be replaced they are org.. Fronts are Michelins, rears same, what problems would I have if I replaced the rears with a different mfg, say Toyo??

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Guys, I think you may want to consider the Continentals as well as the Toyo. The Continential HSR-1 comes in many sizes(mine are 275-70x22.5) and the price is comparable to the Toyo, maybe a little less. Most all of the truckers I have talked with like the Continentials. I replaced the Goodyears with them. I won't go back to the Michelins since I had some of the XRV's that failed with the sidewall zipper rips. Michelin wouldn't cost share in them. Good luck with your decision.
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