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Old 10-01-2013, 08:33 PM   #21
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I would say that the rattle you are hearing is your roll-bar bushings are shot, and it's metal to metal. Look under the chassis, at the large U-shaped roll bar. On the ends of that bar, whereit attaches to the steel rods connecting it to the frame, there should be black plastic bushings. Total of 8, as there are 4 on eacb end of those round steel connecting rods. I just replaced mine 2 weeks ago, and told a friend about it. He checked and found the same problem. You can order them from Freightliner parts dept I Gaffney, for .81/ea.
got any pix of what you're describing? The only bushings I can think of are on the slide channels, probably worth about $.81, but I suspect are not going to be at all easy to change
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:48 AM   #22
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got any pix of what you're describing? The only bushings I can think of are on the slide channels, probably worth about $.81, but I suspect are not going to be at all easy to change
Here is a thread where someone else posted pictures of the bushings. Mine are exactly the same. I would think your '05 is also like this, but you have to take a look. They might have made some changes.

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Ours is a 39F. The noise is right under the floor behind the driver and passenger seats. It's a rattle, so something from the slide makes sense. Maybe its me being a woman and not wanting to break down on the highway, is why I am concerned. Like I said, the tech thought it was the slide, not anything with the wheels. I know cars have an axle that goes from side to side. I guess I need to look at the manual and see how the front wheels are attached to the coach.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:18 AM   #24
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Ours is a 39F. The noise is right under the floor behind the driver and passenger seats. It's a rattle, so something from the slide makes sense. Maybe its me being a woman and not wanting to break down on the highway, is why I am concerned. Like I said, the tech thought it was the slide, not anything with the wheels. I know cars have an axle that goes from side to side. I guess I need to look at the manual and see how the front wheels are attached to the coach.
You are describing exactly the rattle noise and location, that I had, and also a friend's unit had. In both cases, it was distinigrated roll-bar bushings allowing a loose metal to metal contact of the connecting rods to the roll bar and chassis frame. 6 of the 8 were completely gone. If you look at the picture in previous post, then take a look under your motorhome, and see if your bushings are worn out. I bet they are.
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Old 10-03-2013, 07:37 AM   #25
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Will do!! Hope that's all it is.....
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Here is a thread where someone else posted pictures of the bushings. Mine are exactly the same. I would think your '05 is also like this, but you have to take a look. They might have made some changes.

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I was confused on your terminology on "Roll Bar" bushings. Then you show a picture of a "Sway bar" attached to the front end. If this is what you're referring to, there are sway bar "link" bushings and, the sway bar bushings themselves. Those are the ones the sway bar pivots on/in. The link bushings are the little round ones that sandwich the link to the frame and sway bar. Is/are those the parts you're referring to?
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I was confused on your terminology on "Roll Bar" bushings. Then you show a picture of a "Sway bar" attached to the front end. If this is what you're referring to, there are sway bar "link" bushings and, the sway bar bushings themselves. Those are the ones the sway bar pivots on/in. The link bushings are the little round ones that sandwich the link to the frame and sway bar. Is/are those the parts you're referring to?
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Scott, sorry for the confusion. I referred to it as the roll bar because that is what the Freightliner tech called it, when I was speaking with him. But yes, it is the small donut size bushings on each end of the "link" that connects the sway bar to the frame.

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Scott, sorry for the confusion. I referred to it as the roll bar because that is what the Freightliner tech called it, when I was speaking with him. But yes, it is the small donut size bushings on each end of the "link" that connects the sway bar to the frame.

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No biggie on the confusion part. We're all human here. Anyways, there are "kits" out there that are direct replacements in Urethane bushings for not only the link but, also the clamping/pivoting bushings that the sway bar are held on with. I've done it with many cars and, even on our previous coach, a '99 Fleetwood Bounder 34V with the F-53 chassis. The Urethane bushings still have some resiliency but, are seriously stronger than the rubber ones they're replacing. Just a thought.
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Ours is a 2006 36G and when we picked it up brand new there was a loud metallic rattle that seemed like it was under the topper for the steps. Turned out the outside step had something loose. All has been fine ever since, at least with that problem!

Someone mentioned a utensil drawer. I use the small top drawer for silverware and knives. Silverware fits great into a smaller plastic utensil holder I found at Bed, Bath and Beyond. that sits right on top of the drawer Beneath that I have a smaller profile wooden knife holder. The top silverware holder slides back so I can access the knives. Both are perfect!
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Scott, the main bushings that secure the anti sway bar to the chassis, were in excellent condition... they showed no sign of wear or deterioration. So I only replaced the 8 small bushings on the link rods. The ones Freightliner sent me are the hard (urethane?) bushings, not rubber as I thought the would be. The job is done, the rattle is gone, and it handles as it should.

Thanks for your input, Scott.
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How many miles are on your chassis?
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How many miles are on your chassis?
Who is your question for?
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I'm curious when I need to be looking at replacement
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Jeff, I have 52k on my mine, which is a 2002, so those bushings are over 11 years old, and probably closer to 12 from when Freightliner built the chassis.

I would suggest putting them on the list of things to inspect semi-annually. I think the original bushings were some sort of rubber, and may have contributed to why there were literally worn out in 50k miles or less. The replacement bushings (as supplied by Freightliner) were what appeared to be a urethane plastic material; hard but not brittle. I think they will last much longer.
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Scott, the main bushings that secure the anti sway bar to the chassis, were in excellent condition... they showed no sign of wear or deterioration. So I only replaced the 8 small bushings on the link rods. The ones Freightliner sent me are the hard (urethane?) bushings, not rubber as I thought the would be. The job is done, the rattle is gone, and it handles as it should.

Thanks for your input, Scott.
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Well Sir, I didn't do much, just cleared some "terminology" up so we were all on the same page here. Glad to be of some assistance here. Our coach too is, 9 years old and has right at 51K on the clock. I guess I'll have to wiggle under it (again) and check those bushings out. Thanks for pointing them out. Good luck in your travels.
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