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Old 12-25-2010, 09:19 PM   #1
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Daytime running Lights

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I am considering buying a 2004 Journey 36G and importing it to Canada. To do so I have to have daytime running lights which come on when ever the rig is started. Anyone know what's involved with this change?
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Old 12-26-2010, 06:25 AM   #2
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My 2009 Journey 34Y already has them. Are you sure this coach doesn't?

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Old 12-26-2010, 07:27 AM   #3
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Some manufactures install a relay to support DRLs but don't install the relay unless exported to Canada. If you don't have the extra relay the conversion is easy. Find the headlamp relay and wire the sense input to anythin that is powered only when the ignition is on.
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:37 AM   #4
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I think you have to take your rig to Canadian tire. Also don't forget if you have a trade in you will get burned on the tax.
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Old 12-26-2010, 08:20 AM   #5
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I am virtually certain the 04 Journey has factory DRLs. Mine DO NOT come on until parkeing brake is off and the transmission is in "D". Mine sometimes don't come on by themselves from a warm start, but if I turn the headlights on and back off they are good to go. I can tell if they are on from the seat if I am on low beam (no hi beam indicator) and have the driving lights on (drv lights switch pilot lamp is lit).
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Old 12-26-2010, 09:20 AM   #6
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My 2004 Sightseer has them. I bet the Journey does also.
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Old 12-26-2010, 11:13 AM   #7
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Depends on the chassis.... However the list goes like this

Some (GM / Workhorse) Put key in ignition, start engine.

Some (I'm not sure when Ford came out with DRL's) you plug in a device and/or add a fuse.

Some... Well.. I put DRL's on my last car. Six wires is all it took,, but I can no longer find the supplier.

It was the "See Me Daytime Running Light" system by Andrew N Lake enterprises (ANL enterprises) in Livoina, MI. Google did not find 'em either.
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:46 PM   #8
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my 2004 Journey does not

Our 2004 Journey 39W does not have running lights ...

I wish it did ...
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:58 PM   #9
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Our Georgetown does and I wish it didn't. If i want the damn lights on, there's a switch on the dash. I don't need some safety nitwit putting another system on a vehicle to do it if I don't.

They're only useful if most vehicles don't have them, then those that do stand out more easily. If every vehicle has them, their effectiveness is greatly diminished, IMO.

The first system I ever saw was on an early 1960's Volvo, and they should all be like that one. The headlights were connected in series if the other lights weren't on, so that there was a large area lit up, but it wasn't as bright as regular headlamps. They switched to the normal parallel hook-up when you turned the lights on at the switch.

The worst system I've come across was on GM vehicles. When you switched the ignition on, the headlights and panel lights came on, but not the tail lights or license plate lights. I once rented a Cavalier on a business trip. I arrived after dark, got in the car and when the lights came on, I assumed they all had. It wasn't until the following morning I saw a clear plastic placard on the instrument panel, with tiny white letters that you couldn't seee if the panel lights were on, explaining that the tail lights weren't included in the automatic system. I'd driven about 90 miles without tail lights!
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:48 PM   #11
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My '04 Journey 36G does have DRLs. As AFCHAP said, parking brake must be off and transmission in gear. Skigramp, you may just have a defective relay or a loose wire...(oops, I mean your Journey may have loose wire)
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Old 12-26-2010, 07:57 PM   #12
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I like the idea of daytime running lights as to many don't use their headlights until they cant see ahead of them. Its not easy to see a car passing on a dark rainy day when no headlight system is on.
Getting back on topic, I asked someone today about daytime running lights on the rig they bought in Florida. (they had them) but if not the dealer would have easily installed the relay.
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:56 PM   #13
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day time running lights

Thanks for all your comments. Will check her out when I get there. In Canada we have to have running lights so given the mixed response we'll see.
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Old 12-27-2010, 07:01 PM   #14
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Skigramp, you may just have a loose wire

I have had lots worse things said about me ...
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Old 12-28-2010, 05:47 AM   #15
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One nice thing about daytime lights is it removes the problem of idiots not turning on their lights in low light situations like rain, fog, and twilight.
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Old 12-28-2010, 08:02 PM   #16
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The headlights come on when I put my 2004 in gear. I hadn't thought about tail or other running lights so will check that out just so I 'll know.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:22 PM   #17
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I checked mine out today - when the parking brake is released and in gear the head lights come on - no other lights - no tail lights, side or front marker lights. JUST HEADLIGHTS. I don't know if that is normal but that's the way it is on mine. So when dark out put on the headlights to get them all on - at least in my case.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #18
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They're only useful if most vehicles don't have them, then those that do stand out more easily. If every vehicle has them, their effectiveness is greatly diminished, IMO.
I take another view...
absent rainy/overcast conditions where your regular lights should be on anyway having one vehicle on the road different than everyone else creates a hazard as your attention is drawn to the anomaly.

So rather than looking at whats in front of you, you're looking in your mirrors wondering why that guy has his lights on and trying to see what the problem is.

They'll create 200X as many problems as they might solve.
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I should have mentioned earlier on mine the dash instrument lights are iluminated unless I turn the headlight to the on position so I do most often turn on the headlights.
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1cinderdog, your lights are working correctly. Daytime running lights really means daytime running headlights. The tail and side lights are not supposed to come on...
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