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Old 07-19-2006, 10:56 AM   #21
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The W24 could be called the W24.5 because it's GVWR is 24,500# (9000# + 15500#). The W25.5 is 25,500# (9000# + 16500#).

Both have the same GCWR of 30,000# and both are rated to tow 6000#.
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Old 07-19-2006, 05:46 PM   #22
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Doug if the CCC of the motor home is 2000 or less as you said, I would question whether that is enough for full timing. The required CCC will vary from person to person and couple to couple but we have 2600 lbs (2800 lbs with just the two of us on-board) and we really need another 600 to 1000 lbs.
When I bought my motor home I couldn't make the numbers on a diesel work out, but if I had it to do over again knowing how much CCC I need I would take another look.

The power I have with the 8.1 L is fine for my 35 footer with two slides (20700 GVWR), but I don't think I would be satisfied with the 8.1 L and much more weight.
That's just my personal opinion though.
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Old 07-20-2006, 05:11 PM   #23
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Doug:

Have you considered a FRED? Winne apparently is not planning to use them yet but the Tiffin Allegro Bay FRED looks very nice. Power and long life of diesel with an exhaust brake but in a motorhome with 'front engine' floorplans. Also on a FL 26,000 GVWR chassis.
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Old 07-21-2006, 04:23 AM   #24
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tom N:
The W24 could be called the W24.5 because it's GVWR is 24,500# (9000# + 15500#). The W25.5 is 25,500# (9000# + 16500#).
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Well then the W-22 could be called the W23.5 then (8,500# + 15,000#)
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Old 07-21-2006, 04:37 AM   #25
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrontRangeRVer:
Well then the W-22 could be called the W23.5 then (8,500# + 15,000#) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

True, I never looked at the W22 weights. Now that I have what are the optional front and rear axles I see listed in the W22 specs on the Workhorse website???

Capacities
Gross Axle Weight Rating-Front (lb.) 7,500 8,000
Optional-Front (lb.) 8,500
Gross Axle Weight Rating-Rear (lb.) 13,500 14,500
Optional-Rear (lb.) 14,500 15,000
W22 specs
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Old 07-21-2006, 05:11 AM   #26
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tom N:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrontRangeRVer:
Well then the W-22 could be called the W23.5 then (8,500# + 15,000#) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

True, I never looked at the W22 weights. Now that I have what are the optional front and rear axles I see listed in the W22 specs on the Workhorse website???

Capacities
Gross Axle Weight Rating-Front (lb.) 7,500 8,000
Optional-Front (lb.) 8,500
Gross Axle Weight Rating-Rear (lb.) 13,500 14,500
Optional-Rear (lb.) 14,500 15,000
W22 specs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Front 8,500
Rear 15,000

Mine has the optional axles, and most of the larger coaches built on the W-22 come with the optional axles, so there is some "room" to play with.

The bottom line though:
W22 = 22,000 GVWR (although front and rear axles are rated for 23,500lbs)

W24 = 24,000 GVWR (although front and rear axles are rated for 24,500 lbs)

Was the W24 worth an extra $5,000 over the W22 for my coach? Nope...
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Old 07-25-2006, 09:01 PM   #27
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Wife and I are trading in an 05 Adventurer 38J for an 07 Ellipse 40FD (Basically the same floorplan). We are planning on going fulltime next year and found that although our CCC (after getting coach weighed) was about 2500#, unless we carried bowling balls and lead bricks we probably couldn't get that much stuff in the space available.
I found the ride in the 38J to be pretty good, but didn't care for the lack of "efficient" power when ascending grades. I could get about 8 MPG or so traveling flat ground interstate about 62 MPH, but start up even a slight grade like an overpass, and the tranny would downshift to keep up the speed. Then mileage was down to about 3 MPG.
All that being said, we really like the Adventurer, but determined that we really needed more space to carry our stuff when we go fulltime. Even opted for the computer desk in the new one for the extra storage.
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