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Old 10-31-2018, 12:56 PM   #21
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I checked the 2016 37F Parts list online and earlier 2016's with a 6" monitor in the dash have the Core Unit built into the monitor as all one piece.

I don't know how you access it, but MOST systems like that are a standard size called "Double Din" and you use some special tools to slide in beside the radio and release the system. Usually, those tools are supplied and should be in your owners kit.

Since you are in Tampa you could take the RV to a Car Stereo installer and have them remove the unit - and probably check out the SAT Radio issue, too.

Sorry for all the bad advice about looking for the Core Unit in a cabinet. I had no idea that they changed so much from 2016 to 2017.
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I checked the 2016 37F Parts list online and earlier 2016's with a 6" monitor in the dash have the Core Unit built into the monitor as all one piece.

I don't know how you access it, but MOST systems like that are a standard size called "Double Din" and you use some special tools to slide in beside the radio and release the system. Usually, those tools are supplied and should be in your owners kit.

Since you are in Tampa you could take the RV to a Car Stereo installer and have them remove the unit - and probably check out the SAT Radio issue, too.

Sorry for all the bad advice about looking for the Core Unit in a cabinet. I had no idea that they changed so much from 2016 to 2017.
No problem....I think we know where to look now! Now, to figure out how to remove it from the dash to check the Satellite Tuner.....
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Old 11-23-2018, 11:21 AM   #23
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This is a shot of my 2016 Adventurer 37F Dash.
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This is a shot of my 2016 Adventurer 37F Dash.
That looks nice. My 2017 Adventurer has the big 10" monitor, loads more plastic surrounding everything, no wood at all and a cheap $2 fold down drink holder screwed into the sidewall.
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This is a shot of my 2016 Adventurer 37F Dash.
That sure looks like a 2015 version. The 2016 did not have drivers door, your tranny has PRD321 on shifter and the small screen for the infotainment system, all point to 2015?
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That looks nice. My 2017 Adventurer has the big 10" monitor, loads more plastic surrounding everything, no wood at all and a cheap $2 fold down drink holder screwed into the sidewall.
Nice! Looks like the 2017 has a better laid out dash. They get better with each year....I guess.

I am guessing my Xite comes out with a Din Removal tool. Before I order a din removal tool, I want to get eyeballs on it one more time to make sure there are holes on each side to insert a removal tool.
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That sure looks like a 2015 version. The 2016 did not have drivers door, your tranny has PRD321 on shifter and the small screen for the infotainment system, all point to 2015?
It was advertised as a 2016. I never questioned it. I believe it was put into service Sept 2015. When do the model years start for Winnebago?
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I am guessing my Xite comes out with a Din Removal tool. Before I order a din removal tool, I want to get eyeballs on it one more time to make sure there are holes on each side to insert a removal tool.
You'd think there would be DIN removal tools in the manual briefcase if it did. It's customary to include them with the "radio."

I've recommended to a couple of people that they take their RV to a Custom Car Stereo Installer in the past. But I don't think most of them have done so. There are one or two large ones in San Antonio and I'd think any city would have a couple.

They work on these kinds of things - gps, radio, monitors, cameras all the time. And, generally, their shop rates are MUCH less than RV Shop rates.
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It was advertised as a 2016. I never questioned it. I believe it was put into service Sept 2015. When do the model years start for Winnebago?
Model years typically change in July. And usually the serial number changes from a "1" to a "2" when that happens.

The chassis's are mass delivered to Forest City and get moved into the Big Barn from the parking lot in order. So, a Sept 2015 RV would have a 2016 model year but the chassis could have been made in April, 2015 and hence the 5-speed transmission. When looking for a 2016 with a 6-speed transmission you had to find a chassis delivered from Ford after Jan, 2016.

There are a RVs made during the months between July and December that get a mixture of last year's chassis but next year's model date.

I have a 2017 Adventurer. All signs point to it being made on Mar 31, 2017. I purchased it at the end of July 2017. At the time there were zero 2018's and a couple of months after I bought mine I found just a handful of 2018 models on RVT. Then the entire Adventurer line was ended at the end of the year.

So, a few of the units made after July did get "2018" model designations. But it's really rare. Also, many of those few 2018s have a mixture of names on the side. I've seen Itasca's with Adventurer badging and even Winnebago's with Suncruiser badging. And mixtures of both.

PS. If you look at the sticker on the backside of much of your furniture you'll see the serial number of your RV, the color and the manufacture date. That date should be VERY close to the date of your RVs manufactuer.
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You'd think there would be DIN removal tools in the manual briefcase if it did. It's customary to include them with the "radio."

I've recommended to a couple of people that they take their RV to a Custom Car Stereo Installer in the past. But I don't think most of them have done so. There are one or two large ones in San Antonio and I'd think any city would have a couple.

They work on these kinds of things - gps, radio, monitors, cameras all the time. And, generally, their shop rates are MUCH less than RV Shop rates.
I have a couple car stereo store still around here in Tampa too (used to be one on every street corner back in the 80's and 90's!). Problem is getting the appointment and moving the coach across town, then you pay $50/hr shop fee for a 20 min job.
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then you pay $50/hr shop fee for a 20 min job.
Much better than being charged $165/hr for an RV repair shop that doesn't know what they are doing and takes 2.5 hours to do that 20 min. repair.

I do know what you mean about driving them across town. We have a good RV repair shop - all purpose, does it all - but they are in town on a busy street off of a busy highway. It's a zoo getting there. At least they know what they are doing and it doesn't take 45-days to get an appointment.

You've got to pick your battles it seems these days with RVs.
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Old 11-23-2018, 12:59 PM   #32
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Model years typically change in July. And usually the serial number changes from a "1" to a "2" when that happens.

The chassis's are mass delivered to Forest City and get moved into the Big Barn from the parking lot in order. So, a Sept 2015 RV would have a 2016 model year but the chassis could have been made in April, 2015 and hence the 5-speed transmission. When looking for a 2016 with a 6-speed transmission you had to find a chassis delivered from Ford after Jan, 2016.

There are a RVs made during the months between July and December that get a mixture of last year's chassis but next year's model date.

I have a 2017 Adventurer. All signs point to it being made on Mar 31, 2017. I purchased it at the end of July 2017. At the time there were zero 2018's and a couple of months after I bought mine I found just a handful of 2018 models on RVT. Then the entire Adventurer line was ended at the end of the year.

So, a few of the units made after July did get "2018" model designations. But it's really rare. Also, many of those few 2018s have a mixture of names on the side. I've seen Itasca's with Adventurer badging and even Winnebago's with Sunova badging. And mixtures of both.

PS. If you look at the sticker on the backside of much of your furniture you'll see the serial number of your RV, the color and the manufacture date. That date should be VERY close to the date of your RVs manufactuer.
Interesting! I definitely remember my sales person telling me that my coach was put into service in Sept 2015 and the serial number is 10J82U188610.
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my coach was put into service in Sept 2015 and the serial number is 10J82U188610.
WFJ37F (Serial Number begins with 10J82U1) are made prior to July, 2015 and would be 2015 model year.

WFJ37F (Serial Number begins with 10J82U2) are made after July, 2015 and would be 2016 model year.

Then in the middle of 2016 they'd change to making 2017 model year Adventurers. which would hit dealer's stock toward the beginning of 2017.

That's the "1" and "2" I mentioned above.

My March, 2017 build has a 10J82W1 serial number so it's a 2017 if it had a W2 serial number it would be listed as a 2018 model. I don't know why they went from U1/U2 in 2015/2016 to a W1/W2 serial number between 2017/2018.
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WFJ37F (Serial Number begins with 10J82U1) are made prior to July, 2015 and would be 2015 model year.

WFJ37F (Serial Number begins with 10J82U2) are made after July, 2015 and would be 2016 model year.

That's the "1" and "2" I mentioned above.
OK, I will check my sales paperwork when I get home. I believe LazyDays sold the coach to me as a "2016". I wonder if that is legal?

US Bank made the loan to me through LazyDays. So, I wonder if they caught on to this?
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Whatever the title says is all that matters. If it's titled as a 2016 then it is. Simple as that. Winnebago designates the model year on the manufacturers title (I forget what they are called). LazyDays doesn't get to play around with that.

What does your Title say?

Also, I doubt it's as cut and dried as I made it out to be. I was told this at the factory but they also implied that it depended on a number of factors.

If you look at the parts lists on the Winnebago Ind website under resources you'll see this serial number difference listed for each model. I have no doubt that the model year for "1" and "2" could be highly flexible.
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Whatever the title says is all that matters. If it's titled as a 2016 then it is. Simple as that. Winnebago designates the model year on the manufacturers title (I forget what they are called). LazyDays doesn't get to play around with that.

What does your Title say?

Also, I doubt it's as cut and dried as I made it out to be. I was told this at the factory but they also implied that it depended on a number of factors.

If you look at the parts lists on the Winnebago Ind website under resources you'll see this serial number difference listed for each model. I have no doubt that the model year for "1" and "2" could be highly flexible.
Here is the listing for my coach on LazyDays web site. I am surprised it is still listed...although it is marked "Sold".

https://www.lazydays.com/rvs/tampa-f...turer-21029339
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Look at Creativepart's avatar, that is what the front of 2016's look like. I had a battle with a dealer in SoCal trying to sell a 2015 as a '16. It was worth extra money to be a year newer.

But, as has been said, it is what the title says it is and you can do a search of the VIN number as well.

I'm sure there is a WBGO expert around that can clarify. Maybe a mid year change?
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There is a certificate near the steering wheel. That will have some of this info for your coach

https://winnebagoind.com/resources/m..._Motorhome.pdf

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Attached to the unitóthe Certification Label will be permanently attached in one of the following locations:

Attached to the front lower portion of the driverís door
Attached to the lower portion of the wall next to the driverís seat
Attached to the pillar in front of the driver's door.
In the 2016 brochure the front cap and styling does look completely different than the link you provided from LazyDays.

However, there is a link on the Winnebago website "Indentifying your Motorhome". It clearly shows that your serial number is a 2016 serial number. It must be a mid-year change from your front cap design to the newer 2016 cap. So, I'd think you'll see on your Certification Label that you have a 2016.

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This is the serial number assigned to your vehicle by Winnebago Industries, Inc.
The 6th character signifies the model year of your unit.

5 = 1995 A = 2000 F = 2005 L = 2010 T = 2015
6 = 1996 B = 2001 G = 2006 M = 2011 U = 2016
7 = 1997 C = 2002 H = 2007 N = 2012 W = 2017
8 = 1998 D = 2003 J = 2008 P = 2013 X = 2018
9 = 1999 E = 2004 K = 2009 R = 2014 Y = 2019
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There is a certificate near the steering wheel. That will have some of this info for your coach

https://winnebagoind.com/resources/m..._Motorhome.pdf


In the 2016 brochure the front cap and styling does look completely different than the link you provided from LazyDays.

However, there is a link on the Winnebago website "Indentifying your Motorhome". It clearly shows that your serial number is a 2016 serial number. It must be a mid-year change from your front cap design to the newer 2016 cap. So, I'd think you'll see on your Certification Label that you have a 2016.
I will take a picture of my label and post it here later today or tomorrow. Interesting lesson in Winnebago model years!
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Sorry guys, did not mean to stir things up, just an observation......
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