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Old 10-17-2005, 09:00 PM   #1
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Should the switches on the driver door or the lights switch be backlit or illuminated in any way? When driving at night all the controls on the driver's door are unusable without turning on the "map" light which is so bright that it totally ruins your night vision. Also, the headlights switch doesn't appear to be lit at all and once it turned off you can't find the swithch in the dark. On my cars, the headlight switch is backlit whenever the engine is on to make turning on the lights easier. Is this the normal configuration or did someone forget to connect the lights at the factory?
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Old 10-17-2005, 09:00 PM   #2
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Should the switches on the driver door or the lights switch be backlit or illuminated in any way? When driving at night all the controls on the driver's door are unusable without turning on the "map" light which is so bright that it totally ruins your night vision. Also, the headlights switch doesn't appear to be lit at all and once it turned off you can't find the swithch in the dark. On my cars, the headlight switch is backlit whenever the engine is on to make turning on the lights easier. Is this the normal configuration or did someone forget to connect the lights at the factory?
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:53 AM   #3
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Hi Gene,
I have an '05 Adventurer 38R. The lighting situation is the same for me as you. I recently had the entire door panel off to install a switch for my new air horns and there are no bulbs or any fittings to allow for them. Same for the headlight switch. I guess it was an oversight by winnabago. Personally, I avoid driving at night so it's not a real big problem for me. Good Luck
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:10 AM   #4
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Gene Rondenet:
Is this the normal configuration or did someone forget to connect the lights at the factory? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>This is the normal configuration for the lighting system on the coach.

You will become used to where the switches are very shortly and how they they work, not worry about it. I can sit in my seat and close my eyes and put my hand on any control that I need to use by memory, except for the RV Radio. WI fixed that as well by installing a remote on the steering wheel rim so that's not a problem too much any more.

The biggest benefit and imperitive to learn where the switches are is so you don't have to go heads down to locate a switch while you're driving your motorhome down the road at highway speeds during daytime hours.

So you can't see illuminated switches during the day so they won't help. Just learn where the switchs are and how the work. Remember you're the "Capatin" and you have to know how everything works and where everything is.

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Old 10-18-2005, 05:37 AM   #5
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Driver, you stated that WI installed a remote on your BIG 18" steering wheel for your radio. Did they replace the radio or can a remote be upfitted to the existing piece of crap radio.
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:53 AM   #6
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">existing piece of crap radio. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe I have that model also.
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Old 10-18-2005, 07:04 AM   #7
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Gene, I know for a fact that certain Fleetwood models on the various Workhorse chassies do indeed have backlit switches, identical to Winnies' flip switches, so it couldn't be too hard to swap them out (albeit the cost of the lighted switches may be obscene). Like DriVer said, I learned to live with it.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:05 AM   #8
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DriVer,
Is there any method to turn on the map light without opening the door? Seem silly to need to open the door to look at a map when I am parked.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:11 AM   #9
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Dennis:
The Dimming wheel. Turn it full throw & the map lite should come On.

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Thanks Thudman. I should have known that, or at least remembered it. Thanks for not saying DUH!!! I owe you one.
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:24 PM   #11
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MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT ABOUT THE DASH
no back lighting
and gotta love it " that Piece of crap" radio...
see my latest post about replacing that brick!!
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Old 10-23-2005, 04:53 PM   #12
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How lucky can one man be?? I have had 2 pieces of crap, RADIO!!!!! TENN.VOL.
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:25 AM   #13
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I had the same setup on my 2003 Suncruiser - no backlit switches and hard to read radio dial. When I bought my Allegro Bus all the switches were backlit. The radio is better but it's still not the brightest clock during bright ambient light.

I noticed that the Newmar Dutch Star had a great Jensen radio with nice bright blue fluorescent LED clock. I imagine that if you did a search for Jensen car stereos you could find one to drop into your RV.

As to the headlamp switch - I noticed that the Allegro Bus switch is very similar in size to my old Suncruiser's headlamp switch. I bet if you looked at a Tiffin dealer you could buy a replacement Allegro Bus switch, drop it into your Winnebago, connect the light to your dash lights, and you'd have a backlit switch.

I do agree with Driver's assessment of the switches though. You should be able to find the key driving controls without having to look for them. However, the backlit switch does make it easier to learn where they are at first. And it looks cool.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:41 AM   #14
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I went to the Dollar Store and bought one of those packs of Glow-In-The Dark stars, the kind you stick on a child's bedroom ceiling. Took the smallest stars out and put them on my switches. Now I can find them easily in the dark.

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Paul, Old Snipe. GREAT idea!! Thanks.
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Old 10-25-2005, 01:57 PM   #16
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When we had our 2001 Adventurer, driving at night with only the speedometer cluster lit up in the otherwise Black Hole that was the dash was a pain. Now that we have our 2005 Suncruiser night driving is wonderful again since every one of the switches and controls are lit up like all the stars in the sky! I am surprised (and sorry) to hear the new Adventurers didn't get the same treatment.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Captain Bud:
Driver, you stated that WI installed a remote on your BIG 18" steering wheel for your radio. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> What I implied is that the control is available on the rims of newer model coaches and it seems to work in tuning the radio and working the volume without having to go heads down to fiddle with the radio's display that you can't see.

The radio reminds me of your previous toad, but BIGGER!

It's the only major bone of contention I have with my Adventurer. Improving the display it should be back-lit using an orange background or the display should be all LED like automobiles and out temp/compass instrument. At least I can see the numbers on the compass in any light.
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None of the door switches are lighted on my Suncruiser. Are yours????
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Old 10-26-2005, 12:11 PM   #19
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Tom N No, my controls on the door are not lit either. It would have been nice of them to continue the lighted switches and have all controls illuminated. Maybe next year! It's not that big of a deal since even in daylight I can identify them by feel with my fingertips.
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