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11-22-2023, 04:40 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 23
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Flat Towing with 2023 Spirit 22M?
Trying to find do's and don'ts with flat-towing a vehicle on our rig.
Given weight, are all vehicles able to be towed? ie. we have a 7500 lb hitch
What is best towing set-up..Blue Ox etc?
Anything else we should be aware of?
Thanks in advance
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11-23-2023, 01:43 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 584
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Your manual will tell you what towing and tongue weight your Winnie is restricted to, the 7500# hitch means little regarding the towing capacity, you also need to watch the GCVW (Gross Combined Vehicle Weight, of your motor home + your toad.
4 wheel down is the easiest but most expensive, Tow Dollys are less expensive but can be a pain in the butt.
I have no issues with Blue Ox base plates, but do not like their tow bars or how they stand behind their product, your mileage may vary. If you tow 4 wheel down you will need a braking system on your toad, either a permanently mounted like the Demco Stay n play, or a portable unit. Make no mistake a braking system is require by law in most states and you will want one.
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2007 Winnebago Journey 36SG and 2013 Honda CRV Toad
e-Trailer XHD Towbar (Demco) Blue Ox baseplate, SMI Stay N Play brakes
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11-23-2023, 09:36 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Anderson Creek, NC
Posts: 383
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Which chassis you are on has a bearing on tow capacity too. See what you GCVW is minus the GVW should give you the designed tow rating.
I have used Blue Ox in the past. The next system will be Roadmaster. I prefer 4 down to the dolly.
Aaron
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11-28-2023, 11:18 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 584
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When you have time add your RV information to your signature line, it helps us to help you, as we can usually look up information to give you a more informed response
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2007 Winnebago Journey 36SG and 2013 Honda CRV Toad
e-Trailer XHD Towbar (Demco) Blue Ox baseplate, SMI Stay N Play brakes
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11-29-2023, 07:44 PM
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Vietnam Veteran 1967-1970
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Watertown, WI. GO GBPACK
Posts: 94
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We have a Blue Ox Avante Tow Bar, NEVER had a problem with the Blue Ox system in 9 ? years. We flat tow a 2013 Ford C-max, love it... The braking system is a portable one. Patriot 3. Had Patriot 1and 2. When we sold other RVs, we included the Patriots because we always wanted to upgrade. The Patriot 3 IS better than the Patriot 1 and 2. 3 has a large Capacitor in it instead of a battery. I use the Center pin on the 7 pin cable to keep my car battery trickle charged. The Patriot 3 is more responsive than 1 and 2. We have a 2022 Winnie Minnie 26t. Oh ya, our tow car weighs 3800 lbs.
One more thing, we had Great service from Blue Ox....
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Vietnam Veteran 1967-1970
Joshua 24:15
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11-29-2023, 09:41 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 584
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Just so you are aware, Blue Ox considers their tow bars to be obsolete at the 10 year mark and will not sell you parts for upkeep. I ran into this earlier this year. I ended up buying a E-Trailer XHD, which is made by Demco, love it.
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2007 Winnebago Journey 36SG and 2013 Honda CRV Toad
e-Trailer XHD Towbar (Demco) Blue Ox baseplate, SMI Stay N Play brakes
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12-01-2023, 01:02 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Aug 2023
Posts: 9
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I got a free Roadmaster, towbar. I like it. I tow/toad a 4300 lb. lifted Jeep 2 door, with a 5 speed std transmission and a manual shift transfer. Automatic transfers and transmissions seem to have a complicated regimen to get it in neutral. A friend destroyed 3 ford front wheel drive, auto transmissions, before he believed me, that it shouldn't be flat towed. Then there is the frame, cars are designed to crush/collapse in a crash. The lightweight tin, is where it cracks, when flat towing.
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12-01-2023, 02:41 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 2,426
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Frame extensions/modifications affect towing capacity, for instance you may have a hitch rating sticker that says maximum is 7,500#,but, the GCVWR minus the GVWR rating trumps the hitch rating unless your MH is below GVWR; then that overhead can apply to hitch ratting up to its maximum.
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12-03-2023, 01:36 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: Vancouver Island
Posts: 23
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Tim, how do I do that?
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12-04-2023, 10:39 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 584
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Click on your screen name at the top right of the screen, then click on User CP at the top left, there is a pane on the left side where you can change all your details and edit your signature line.
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2007 Winnebago Journey 36SG and 2013 Honda CRV Toad
e-Trailer XHD Towbar (Demco) Blue Ox baseplate, SMI Stay N Play brakes
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