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08-26-2021, 08:10 PM
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blubugger
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 145
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Micro-Minnie 2106ds sink trap fails
Recently at an RV spot in the cool pines of New Mexico I was attempting to drain black and grey water tanks while my better half was relaxing in the cool mountain air on the other side of the TT. And since I needed more grey water in the tank, I drained the kitchen sinks and left a faucet on low to fill the tank more so. To which she came running around the trailer yelling (wives dont yell....they simply point out! "There is water coming out of every point on the passenger side of the trailer!"
So, upon inspection opening the cabinet under the kitchen sink, the drain trap fitting had come loose and fell down, letting grey water pour into the area under the pump cover, onto the wheel well metal cover, then out to the ground.
I could see that the trap had dropped from the sink drain and the 2" drain pipe running along that side towards the lavatory was very springy and unsupported along its length. Reinserting the trap and tightening the plastic nut held for a while but then several trips later the pipe dropped down again, this time I caught it, retightened but also added a stiff foam spacer under the length of the pipe. Thus hoping that this will prevent future leaks.
I can see where, if the plumbing is full of water, and driving over rough or bumpy roads...this would happen again. So as the saying goes "the only thing that works on an RV.....is the owner!" Nuff said!
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08-27-2021, 07:39 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Bend, OR
Posts: 16
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This is a very good idea and worth implementing as a preventative measure. In addition to camping at RV parks, I take my TT boondocking for hunting, ham radio activations, etc, and the washboard gravel roads really do a shake rattle and roll to the trailer. I've had window shades fall down, shower heads, etc. I can see something like this happening especially when the most inconvenient!
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2017 Micro Minnie 1706FB - 300w solar, 100Ahr LiPO4Fe battery, 600w inverter
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08-28-2021, 10:57 AM
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blubugger
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 145
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Also taking a look at the drain trap I also wrapped some tie-wraps around the trap and the upper drain pipe that is a fixed today the sink. Just as a double check to ensure no future problems.
When water leaks out of anywhere under the sink, there is a lot of plywood construction in the trailer sub-floor ythat could be damaged. So it is better to secure all plumbing as best as possible.
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09-12-2021, 06:55 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 42
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This happened to my 2108DS...twice. Tightened, checked all was secure, drove on mildly bumpy road, and loose again. Thank you for the preventative suggestion.
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09-12-2021, 08:21 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 302
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazonica
This happened to my 2108DS...twice. Tightened, checked all was secure, drove on mildly bumpy road, and loose again. Thank you for the preventative suggestion.
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You know...with this head's up...I think I am going to change my set-up, M.O. From now on...after setting up the T.T, (1706FB), and after hooking up the city water, OR...with an fully loaded on-board Potable Water Tank filling...I think the VERY FIRST THING I am going to do...is open up all the cabinets below all sinks, both the bathroom, and the galley, and hand touch, all the turn plumbing connections, BEFORE I run any water...but then...will run some water in BOTH sinks (I have two), as well as the bathroom sink...and watch for any water running or dripping down from the sink bowls.
Now, each and every hook up, or initial use of the water systems. Thanks for posting to the O.P.! Modus Operandi has now been changed!
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03-27-2022, 12:17 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Abbotsford, BC
Posts: 436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blubugger
Recently at an RV spot in the cool pines of New Mexico I was attempting to drain black and grey water tanks while my better half was relaxing in the cool mountain air on the other side of the TT. And since I needed more grey water in the tank, I drained the kitchen sinks and left a faucet on low to fill the tank more so. To which she came running around the trailer yelling (wives dont yell....they simply point out! "There is water coming out of every point on the passenger side of the trailer!"
So, upon inspection opening the cabinet under the kitchen sink, the drain trap fitting had come loose and fell down, letting grey water pour into the area under the pump cover, onto the wheel well metal cover, then out to the ground.
I could see that the trap had dropped from the sink drain and the 2" drain pipe running along that side towards the lavatory was very springy and unsupported along its length. Reinserting the trap and tightening the plastic nut held for a while but then several trips later the pipe dropped down again, this time I caught it, retightened but also added a stiff foam spacer under the length of the pipe. Thus hoping that this will prevent future leaks.
I can see where, if the plumbing is full of water, and driving over rough or bumpy roads...this would happen again. So as the saying goes "the only thing that works on an RV.....is the owner!" Nuff said!
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Nice Tip, towing our new to us 2017 Micro Minnie 2106FBS home to Canada from USA (Camping along the way) same thing happened. We saw water on the ground under the passenger side, thought it was the Fresh water tank drain leaking. My wife opened the sink cabinet door and everything on the base of the cabinet was wet.
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03-27-2022, 05:53 PM
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blubugger
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bcborn
Nice Tip, towing our new to us 2017 Micro Minnie 2106FBS home to Canada from USA (Camping along the way) same thing happened. We saw water on the ground under the passenger side, thought it was the Fresh water tank drain leaking. My wife opened the sink cabinet door and everything on the base of the cabinet was wet.
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I think the size of drain was really the standard 1.25" plumbing plumbing (not my reported 2" size). So, placing a suitable stiff foam under that drain and additional securing straps etc. to prevent the joints from coming apart under long trips etc.
we just have to remember that home plumbing lines are set and fixed, whereas trailers and RV plumbing are subjected to vibration and bumps!
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