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Old 08-26-2005, 07:27 AM   #15
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RKL,

Thanks for the info.
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Old 08-26-2005, 09:24 AM   #16
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John, please, stop it. I have to be honest, when I get finished reading about all the great work you are doing, I'm absolutely exhausted. No doubt you aren't even the least bit tired. You see, I've figured it out, somehow you are transfering all of our energy to you through this forum.

All kidding aside, I have to say that some of us (I'm one in this category) wouldn't even think of doing all the things you are doing.

You've made me so tired I've got to go have a nap.
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:22 PM   #17
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">JamesOne </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">We learned to do only one load a day </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

JamesOne...I agree. We do one load a day as well. Only we're not brave enough to set it up and leave. We do a load in the evening while we're cooking dinner, eating, reading or watching TV. It's usually done by bedtime. This method works fine for us. Who wants to spend a whole day doing laundry anywhere..be it in a CG laundry facility or your own RV? So one load a day is good!
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Old 08-26-2005, 12:50 PM   #18
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Jeanne M. we are fortunate our park in FLA has a very good laundry with 6 new Maytag washers and 6 Maytag gas dryers. DW does 3 loads very quickly. It is a bit of a nuisance taking the laundry over to the building - but she and our son play shuffleboard or bean bag while doing to laundry.

We've had a Splendide 2000 and it sure does take a long time for a load. We are getting a new MH that doesn't have a W/D and its floorplan requires it to be installed at the factory and you lose the desk and a window. We feel there is no downside at our park but there certainly may be when we try to do laundry on the road.

I have to say I found the W/D noisy and annoying. She didn't mind it. I was also amazed how long it took to do a load. If we hadn't traded, this next season in FLA she would have had it on the wash cycle only and then dried the items on a clothes line outside. It is the drying cycle that seems to take all the time.
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Old 08-26-2005, 01:30 PM   #19
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I'm right on the verge of ordering the Echo~Charge but haven't since I'm still trying to find a place to install it. On a Journey 36G the compartment aft of batteries is heat pump (open to elements) and the compartment forward is water heater. I think I may be able to sneak it in there but have to do some exploring. The actual battery compartment is also open to the elements and gets wet/dusty so is no place for electronics. Have to find an good environment but still meet Xantrex's two foot recommended limit. Anyone installed an aux charger on a 36G and have a suggestion? Any would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:37 AM   #20
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Ken, I also have a 36G and have the exact same concerns as you, where to install this thing! I read the technical and installation literature and they seem to want it mounted in a cleaner environment than the 36G has to offer. My battery area is always a dusty dirty mess and I only have 5,000 miles on the motorhome. For this reason alone I finally decided yesterday to go with the TRIK-L-START which is 1/2 the cost ($50). Although it's not as intellegent as the Echo-Charge others say it works just fine. It's an all enclosed unit which can live in the harsh bettery box environment. When ordering the unit I was told they are selling a lot of units for late model Winnebago motor homes. I should receive it today or next week.
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Old 08-27-2005, 09:24 AM   #21
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My thinking exactly Lucky 13. The Trick-L-Charger is a sealed unit which appears impervious to the ennvironment in which it is installed. I just received mine and will install it this weekend. I love living vicariously through John (Canfield) and his continuous projects, but glad to stop and smell the roses too. Thanks for the input.
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:59 AM   #22
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dleslie125:
John, please, stop it. I have to be honest, when I get finished reading about all the great work you are doing, I'm absolutely exhausted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don - now that you bought a new coach - you will need to buy and install things - just like me

Lucky/Ken/JB: I believe the Echo~Charge does need to be pretty much out of the weather. I considered and dropped the thought of installing it in the battery rack area. Please "think outside of the box" (pun intended) when you are looking for suitable places to stick the thing. I believe you could easily put the thing ten feet away if you use 12 or maybe 10 gauge wire for lead extensions. It will draw 15 amps under full load, so size the wires appropriately.

So far so good with the unit - it got fairly warm when first connected due to the discharged state of the starting batteries. It is pretty cool to the touch now that it isn't working too hard.

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John,

I am curious why you are going with the Xantrex RS200 instead of the Onan Engergy Command EC-20. The EC-20 will auto start for theromostat requests for AC/heat pump. As near as I can tell the RS2000 will not.
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Old 08-27-2005, 01:12 PM   #24
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For those looking for a clean place to install an echo-charger, consider the enclosed relay/fuse box inside the front "hood" area. I know it's a looong way from the batteries, but the "Aux Start" relay is located there. Surely cabling sufficient to start a diesel engine can handle a 15A charger without voltage loss. I haven't done this (I use a BatteryMinder), but it seems like a reasonable alternative.
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:08 AM   #25
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vicsryd:
John,

I am curious why you are going with the Xantrex RS200 instead of the Onan Engergy Command EC-20. The EC-20 will auto start for theromostat requests for AC/heat pump. As near as I can tell the RS2000 will not. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jon, The RS2000 is the new true sine wave inverter/charger from Xantrex. The Xantrex AGS is an automatic generator start model that communicates with the RS2000 and the System Control Panel via the Xanbus network topology, which is similar to a cat5 Ethernet network.

The Xantrex AGS module does have a number of low voltage connections and some of those can be used for auto-start in response to air conditioning thermostat demands. I have mine set up for A/C as well as low battery voltage.

However, if you do have a digital thermostat you need to buy an interface module from Dometic to convert the digital A/C system control logic to analog outputs but this is the same for any automatic generator start when used with a digital interface thermostat.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:00 PM   #26
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Couldn't have said it better than Mark .

Xantrex install update:

Unfortunately I found out the control panel cable from the Dimensions inverter/charger to the panel is not Cat5 but some kind of eight conductor phone-type cable. I spent a wonderful afternoon running Cat5 cable from the OnePlace to the power inlet compartment. Hopefully that will be the worst part of the job!

What went well was the installation of the SurgeGuard. I'll post a few pictures of that soon.

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Old 08-29-2005, 03:01 PM   #27
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John,
tha Cat5 cable was the first problem I was worried about. How did you manage to run a whole new cable frrom the one-place through the Coach to the Power compartment?
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Old 08-29-2005, 03:47 PM   #28
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hogbreth, I'm worn out again. This guy never stops. I'd never let my wife read these threads or I'd be in real trouble.
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