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Old 03-03-2005, 11:09 AM   #1
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In case you are interested in the saga of us ordering a coach (probably from Lazydays) soon, here is another bit of datum.

I just got off the phone with the Winney factory rep to Lazydays (LD is large enough to have dedicated reps) asking him for a quote on a couple of custom items.

We want (well, I want) auto gen start and a pure sine wave inverter in place of the "stepped" or modified sine wave inverter. The question posed to the rep was:

-- What would be the cost of installing an Onan Energy Command 30 (auto gen start)?

-- What would be the cost of upgrading the inverter to a pure sine wave model?

He didn't have a clue what a "pure sine wave" inverter was. That's okay - he is basically a sales interface between Winney and LD.

I told him that Xantrex (inverters) has an add-on that does auto gen start, so that might be an option.

On the Horizons that I looked at, all of them used an inverter/charger by Dimensions and they don't have a pure sine-wave model, so the Xantrex combo might be the way to go.

I'll keep you all posted on the answers.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:09 AM   #2
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In case you are interested in the saga of us ordering a coach (probably from Lazydays) soon, here is another bit of datum.

I just got off the phone with the Winney factory rep to Lazydays (LD is large enough to have dedicated reps) asking him for a quote on a couple of custom items.

We want (well, I want) auto gen start and a pure sine wave inverter in place of the "stepped" or modified sine wave inverter. The question posed to the rep was:

-- What would be the cost of installing an Onan Energy Command 30 (auto gen start)?

-- What would be the cost of upgrading the inverter to a pure sine wave model?

He didn't have a clue what a "pure sine wave" inverter was. That's okay - he is basically a sales interface between Winney and LD.

I told him that Xantrex (inverters) has an add-on that does auto gen start, so that might be an option.

On the Horizons that I looked at, all of them used an inverter/charger by Dimensions and they don't have a pure sine-wave model, so the Xantrex combo might be the way to go.

I'll keep you all posted on the answers.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:20 AM   #3
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The New Xantrex RS2000 is now available. It's a true sine wave inverter/charger that will fit into the same space that the OEM Freedom 458 modified sine wave models did. They also have an RS3000 on the way (next month) which is the one I'm waiting for. This inverter also uses the Xanbus data bus, which is a cat5 communications bus that communicates with other devices so equipped. They also have an automatic generator start (not the old version without the data bus) that interfaces with any Xanbus device and communicates data regarding battery status, etc. That's the one I plan on getting once the RS3000 is on line. For more details check out the www.xantrex.com website. Winny has connections with Xanterx so they should have access to everything you need.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:14 PM   #4
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Well this turned out to be a simple process (unfortunately). The answer is: NO!

So what I have to do is to rip out the new Dimensions inverter and sell it on eBay and install what I want

What a shame.
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Old 03-04-2005, 02:15 PM   #5
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John your ambitions are going to cost you all your warranty. The electrical system in the coach is Winnebago designed and secured. I don't understand what you want to gain. Onan has an auto gen start available. Maybe you should talk to them before you put yourself out side the warranty envelope.

I can tell you from our personal experience, warranty issues that become product liability problems aren't addressed as they should be.

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Old 03-05-2005, 02:11 AM   #6
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Hi Tomcat,

I hear what you are saying about taking a Winny installed product out of the coach.. For sure the responsibility of troubleshooting and repair will shift to me for the inverter/charger. That is a trade-off though I am willing to accept. I am very astute about electronics and electrics and years ago at the start of my career with AT&T I used to troubleshoot and repair complex systems for a living.

I have been looking over the Winny wiring diagrams, the Xantrex and Dimensions install instructions, and it actually looks like changing out inverters wouldn't be too difficult.

The Dimensions (interter) remote panel uses 8 conductor cable - probably RJ45 like ethernet and so does Xantrex.

Actually if I install the new inverter and auto gen start, I will gain an intimate awareness of the product; much more so than just reading a manual on a Winny installed piece of equipment.

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Old 03-05-2005, 04:36 AM   #7
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Hey John,

It sounds like your more then qualified to handle the task and you'll need it.

I was talking with Nick Klein from Xantrex last night about your project and he asked me to ask you to call him 800-446-6180 and discuss what you want to do. He has some new products just coming to the market place that may just suite your application much better.

If your going to blow your warranty, you might as well do the job big time and with the lastest & greatest.

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Old 03-05-2005, 06:05 AM   #8
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Thanks - I will call him next week. I was going to review my situation with Xantrex anyway - now I have a name.

This project won't come to fruition until about June when we expect the coach to come in (we are planning on ordering it Monday after next.) Maybe the new product will be out by then.

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Old 03-05-2005, 07:19 AM   #9
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John,
WINNIE's wiring may not be all that complex for you, but if they mess up their simple wiring specs themselfs it would be under Winnies warranty for time, money an effort not yours. A few months wait, while you plan a setup for sys you want. Just a thought from old NYNEX BUS SYS PE. ---"007"
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Hey 007 - "Bell-head Buddy"! What a long way things have come with ma bell. I started with SW Bell, went to AT&T at divesture, took early retirement in 1998. Now AT&T is owned by SW Bell (SBC) - my how things change!

I'm really not too concerned about electrical troubleshooting being on Winny's nickle for a year. I completly rewired my 40 foot boat - 12v and 120v and I knew the systems intimately - and that's a good thing (as Martha Stewart would say!)
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Old 03-05-2005, 02:23 PM   #11
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Hey John,

We took out the Dimensions unit as soon as we took delivery of the unit! We installed a Xantrex Prosine 2.0. It works so much better than the dimesions unit. We were not at all worried about the warranty, same as you, the new unit comes with it's own warranty. The swap out was a snap, like you thought it would be.

Right now we are in the process of changing the furnaces out with a hydronic hot water heating unit. This is a little trickier!!! But we love a project!

Good luck!!
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John, I see that you will not have any problem with what you intend to do. Most of us Bells wouldn't. Retired in 88 at 54, Nynex Bus Sys had problems over extended, went out of business two yrs after. After 36yrs said I had enough of this new bell sys. Enjoy your new project an rving. May see you down the road.---"007"
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007: It sounds like you and I got out when the gettin' was good!

Buck n' Jeff: Boy-oh-boy you have taken on a project with a Hydronic install. Can't wait to hear about it!

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Old 10-18-2006, 06:14 AM   #14
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Hey, I know what you PRO"S do will be just fine.
Just wish I had the ability to do and understand everything you guys are talking about.
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