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Old 07-04-2009, 09:24 PM   #1
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Unhappy 120 volt receptacle problem

1997 Adventurer. The 120v receptacle between the kitchen sink and stove has stopped working. I have the diagrams, but wonder why all other outlets work, except this one. Is it possible to pull a new wire and is it connected in the junction box under the refrigerator?
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Old 07-05-2009, 05:48 AM   #2
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I am not familiar with your exact coach ... but generally Winnebabo motorhomes have two GFI's ... one for the outlets on the right side of the coach ... and one for the outlets on the left side ... both of mine are located in the bathroom area ...

I think you will probably find a tripped (or maybe faulty) GFI that is causing your problem ...
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Old 07-05-2009, 06:47 AM   #3
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Can't see your wiring diagram to find out whats on the branch circuit with that faulty outlet...but would agree that this outlet 'might' be either a GFI, controled by a GFI breaker in the breaker panel or possibly down stream of a master GFI located in another location.

It's possible that the outlet could also be bad if not GFI controlled or a breaker tripped, have seen it before. Before running a new wire...I would pull the cover on the outlet and if necessary pull the outlet and check for voltage at the wire terminals on the outlet....USE CAUTION....as they may be hot.

I use this Non Contact tester for tracing and testing when troubleshooting some problems.
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:31 AM   #4
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Normally we would say you should check your GFCI outlets to see if one has been tripped.

However in this case I will amp that up a bit

That outlet *IS* Protected by the GFCI outlet in your coach, (No question about it, that one is a GFCI outlet) you will need to locate the GFCI and reset it.

All outlets in the Kitchen, bath and the external outlet are GFCI protected, ONE of them is often the GFCI, itself (They daisy chain,, Like this

Breaker box====GFCI===OUtelet====Outlet===Outlet

Sometimes it's under the bed, sometimes it's hidden, heck even teh circuit breaker COULD be the GFCI (Rare in a MH)

But you have tripped the GFCI
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Old 07-05-2009, 09:56 AM   #5
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Many (most?) manufacturers including Winnebago use receptacles that use insulation displacement to make the connections.
That means they do not strip the wires or cut them but just remove the outer covering of the romex and then push the wires into V shaped slots that push the insulation out of the way thus making the connection.
If the receptacle in question is between two others that are good then I would suspect the wires are no longer making good contact in the receptacle.
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Old 07-05-2009, 10:25 AM   #6
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stormincb- Agree with others. Find the GFI, it might be down near the floor. That's surely your problem. Just reset it.
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Old 07-05-2009, 11:20 AM   #7
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Might not be the GFCI if only one outlet is affected. It may also be in series with the outside entertainment GFCI.
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Old 07-05-2009, 01:03 PM   #8
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I had the exact problem Clay mentions above- cheap outlets designed for fast assembly that do not make good positive contact. Ours was on a Safari Trek.
The outlet in question didn't have 110, was after a GFCI that wasn't tripped, but the next outlet beyond on that circuit had 110. It took a close inspection to see that the insulation wasn't cut well when the factory pushed wires into the Vee of the contacts. I pulled it apart & did a proper strip-off of insulation for maybe 1/8th inch, then smashed it back together well. Never had a problem w/it after that.
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Old 07-05-2009, 04:21 PM   #9
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Thank you to all for your responses. I have studied the wiring diagram and now know that a GCFI is involved and it may be under the refrigerator in a junction box. However, I will also pull the romex from the dead outlet to see if that could be the problem. I'll pass along the fix.
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Here's one other possibility as it just happened to me. These Winnebago outlets are nothing like your home outlets. As other have posted, the romex is simply squished into a "V" that makes the electrical connection by cutting the plastic insulation on the wire. Also, where the appliance plugs in, there are two pieces of spring metal with bends in them. When the plug prong enters the outlet, these spring metal connectors, spring back to allow the prong to enter and set within the outlet. On my 97 Adventurer, these spring metal contactors broke at the bends in the metal making the appliance plug slip in and out with no tension on the prong. No electrical connection either. Basically a dead plug! The wires were hot, but not the outlet. Total replacement of the outlet was the cure.
Hope this explanation made some sense, hard to spell out, better to visualize.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:07 PM   #11
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I have removed the CP panel, so I could remove the junction box (JB) beneath it. I stripped the wires in the JB and also the outlet. I also have found the outlets at the entertainment center outside and the external outlets to be dead. SO, I am on the hunt for the GFCI that controls that side of the coach. The wiring diagram hasn't been much help in that hunt.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:51 PM   #12
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The GFCI's are usually integral with one of the outlets. I'm not sure just which model of the Adventurer you have, but according to the wiring diagram for the G34RQ, for instance, the right-hand side GFCI appears to be the galley outlet at mid-height to the left of the fridge.

If you can tell me which model you have, the diagram for your model should tell us where to find it.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:19 PM   #13
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Chris,

I have the wiring diagram and the 3 receptacles that are dead are according to the diagram detail protected by a GFI and it suggests it's the receptacle between the sink and stove. However, it isn't a GFI receptacle like the one in the bathroom and neither is the external entertainment center or external receptacle. I have removed the stove to acces the wiring, I have removed the back-panel of the ext. ent. ctr., but I can't find a GFI. Maybe if I go to the parts catalog, which numbers every item, I can find it. It's very frustrating.
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In my coach the GCFI outlet that controls the one you are having trouble with is at the front end of the sink cabinet. Look for the red reset button.
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