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Old 10-24-2013, 03:47 PM   #1
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Smile Another Newbie - how to buy a Winnebago?

My wife and I have been doing some traveling/camping the past 8 years using a van conversion and we are now thinking of moving up to a motorhome.

When we go to the RV shows we are beset upon by skilled salesmen/women who all tout their product as the "finest made" and the competition is sorely lacking in comparison! We then are presented with MSRP stickers that are astronomical! Being newbies to the motorhome world, we tell them we are not even close to making a purchase decision yet and that, of course, disappoints them.

Searching around the internet, we find that some RV brands are sold by large, high volume dealerships that offer large discounts. We have not seen this from the dealers selling Winnebago/Itasca. How does someone get a fair price on a Winnebago motorhome if there is not much apparent competition? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. My email account for those wishing to contact me privately is:
CruizerBill at yahoo.com (change that to normal email protocol, I am trying to get around the robots!).

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Old 10-24-2013, 05:01 PM   #2
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:02 PM   #3
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Was about to ask the same question!
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Old 10-24-2013, 05:16 PM   #4
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To buy one you agree on the price and write a check.

From any dealer you should be able to settle on a price of around 70% of MSRP. If they are trying for highway robbery, go look elsewhere.

Winnebago tends to build a coach that is a bit above the others in their class.

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Old 10-24-2013, 05:35 PM   #5
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:welcome: Glad you have joined us.

First, most of us with financial restraints, don't recommend buying new.

Here is a link to Winnebago/Itasca that give you access to the brochures for the different model years. Request Brochure

Here is how we purchased this coach. We went to a RV show a few years back. We discovered the U and QD series. We decided that anything over 40' would not work for our lifestyle. We settled on this floorplan because of what we saw at the RV show and this model year because it is the first year that the residential refrigerator is offered.

Our '05 Winnebago was not suited for fulltiming. We were destroying it with the tools we need to carry for volunteering. It was in the shop and I did a web search for a 2011 40U. I found this in FL and started negotiating on a finance rate. When the final numbers came in we knew we could afford it.

If you can pay cash or have a bid cash deposit you can negotiate a better deal than we did. Money talks.

So. Pick the floorplan, features and colors you prefer. Search the web for the model years you are willing to try to get and be patient.

One thing about this coach. The brochure states that the chassis has a 55 deg turning radius. It does not. It is a 60 deg turn. But you can't go wrong with a Freightliner chassis and a Cummins engine.

We all hope to hear more from you about your choices and progress. Oh yea. We drove our old coach 1200 miles from TX to FL to trade. We love our new home and I know we will enjoy it for many years. Hope the same is true for you.
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:50 PM   #6
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As a footnote to the above post, it is my belief that you won't know what you want (and don't want) until you have a motorhome. Another good reason for starting out used.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:06 PM   #7
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As a footnote to the above post, it is my belief that you won't know what you want (and don't want) until you have a motorhome. Another good reason for starting out used.
Rather than spending money then finding out you don't like the product try renting first. We rented several motorhomes ( both class A and class C) before we made our first purchase. It was an education at a less expensive price. We quickly found out which features were necessary and which ones we weren't interested in.

It made buying our first motorhome easier. We already knew what we wanted and what we could live without. The salesman wasn't going to talk us into options we didn't want, and we weren't going to buy something that didn't offer the things we thought were necessary.
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Old 10-24-2013, 08:28 PM   #8
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Thanks so much for the input! I live in the Seattle Area.

Are you serious about paying 70 percent of MSRP? That is amazing, is that true?

What is the used market li8ke now? Is the economy soft and good RVs available or have things tightened up?

Thanks again!
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:13 PM   #9
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I don't know that you're going to get to 30% off on a new, current model year coach, but 20% or more is easy to do. Pay little attention to the the MSRP. I got mine for 80% of the sticker and it was the first one of this model that the dealer had gotten on their lot. I bought it within two weeks of seeing it.

If you're looking at a 2013 sitting on a lot with 2014 models, then you have more leverage and might see a 30% discount. My local dealer has a 2013 Winnebago Sightseer 33C and their initial asking price is 18% off MSRP. That's before any haggling discussions. Chances are that they'd drop the price another 10% without batting an eye.

Of course, RVs depreciate fast so a recent model used motorhome is going to cost even less. NADA Guides will give you an idea. Look at the low retail without adding options to get an idea of where the real price should be. To get a feel for the used market, you can also look at what's sold on eBay recently. There are lots of places selling used ones online too.

When I first got into RVing, I decided on a diesel and found one I liked on eBay. I used it a lot, decided it wasn't quite "it" and moved up. Don't get me wrong, the first one wasn't bad, I just wanted more space so I looked for something with bigger slide outs so I bought a 2008. Later I upgraded again to the current 2011 model.

Forget the MSRP. Look at what you want and decide if you want new or used, gas or diesel and what floor plan and amenities matter. Coming from a van conversion, they're all going to seem like a huge upgrade. You just need to find the right one at the right price.
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As one of the above posts stated you might be wise to rent a coach or buy a used model rather than jumping in with both feet. As you use the coach and you go to RV shows and research different models, you will come up with list of what you have to have on a coach. Then, when you start the search for your Dream Machine you will know within a few makes and models what you want. Then start the Wheeling and Dealing. We decided in 2011 that our Dream Machine was the Winnebago Journey 34Y. Unfortunately, by the time we made up our mind on the model we wanted, Winnebago replaced the 34Y with the 34B. So the long process started to find a 34Y. 2 years later we found a new 2011(in 2013) 34Y in Arizona (1,784 miles from Iowa). We made the trip and negotiated a great deal (New unit, all warranties,1,800 miles and $90,000 off MSRP). The bottom line is do your research, be patient and don't let the salesmen sell you something that is not right for you. Happy hunting...
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Old 10-25-2013, 09:03 AM   #11
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This RV sales company, one of the largest in the U.S. starts pricing with 25% off MRSP. See their website.. Texas RV Dealer, Used RVs for sale, motorhome sales, new RVs

I know they are in Texas but it will give you an idea of what ANY dealer should be charging...and they will come off a few more percent depending on your negociations....offer 30% and see how high your dealer jumps....leave your phone number and walk away....you may get a call soon...ha ha. A 2013, 30% off easy...it is a year old and the dealer got his rebate from the manufacture. Shopping is fun....
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Thanks so much for the input! I live in the Seattle Area.

Are you serious about paying 70 percent of MSRP? That is amazing, is that true?

What is the used market li8ke now? Is the economy soft and good RVs available or have things tightened up?

Thanks again!
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I have been in the Seattle Area for two month due the the early birth of my grandson..

Poulsbo in Kent has been great to work with on a few parts issues. I have been at the KOA here in Kent for that time and I can not count the Tiffin and Winnebago motor homes that came through here and had service there. This tells me it must be a quality dealership

I too think about 25% off is a more realistice discount off MSRP
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I have been in the Seattle Area for two month due the the early birth of my grandson..

Poulsbo in Kent has been great to work with on a few parts issues. I have been at the KOA here in Kent for that time and I can not count the Tiffin and Winnebago motor homes that came through here and had service there. This tells me it must be a quality dealership

I too think about 25% off is a more realistice discount off MSRP
We used Poulsbo in Everett for a roof leak problem. They did such a poor job that we decided to go the the factory to get the repair done correctly. The factory charged the repair back to Poulsbo.

KOA and dealer service centers are hot topics within the irv2 community.

I noticed one comment about renting before you buy. This is a great suggestion. Also, comments have been made about buying new. I don't recommend it because of the depreciation loss driving off the lot and for the amount of down time trying to resolve the factory issues with the local dealer.

I have owned 3 class A motorhomes. Each had it's ups and downs. This one we have just bought is the most practical and livable floorplan of any I have owned or seen. For a 40' unit the basement storage is huge and the features of seating, residential refrigerator, stacked washer and dryer and many other features that just make this unit a comfortable home, it is hard to beat. This floorplan is available in shorter units and has been adapted by other manufactures. We happen to like Winnebago, though Newmar could have been an option but I found this before I look at Newmar seriously.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:43 PM   #14
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I ended up buying a used 2012 Adventurer with 7K miles over a new unit, although I went to look at new units. I got what I thought was a good price, and have bought from this dealer for the 3rd time. Good luck on your searching.
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