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10-02-2006, 04:18 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Our hot water suddenly stopped flowing. Thanks to this forum I learned that many Winnie owners had the same problem with the hot water tank check valves. Once I located and removed the check valve I found it had plastic internal parts that had broken. See photo of plastic part with missing retainer.
My coach is an 2005 Itasca 40 AD manufactured in July of 2004. I understand that later models may have the better brass check valves. Earlier models have the plastic check valves.
If you have not replaced your check valves on your coach you may want to have the necessary tools on hand just in case. The check valve resquires a 1 inch wrench, preferably a ratchet wrench, see photo.
On my coach there was an access door under the motor home and towards the back side of the hot water heater. Once this door was removed I could remove the plastic water pipe nut with pliers. I then had to go to Sears and purchase a 1 inch ratchet wrench. This was the only tool with sufficient torque to loosen the defective check valve in the small space. Once removed, I gutted the valve of its defective parts and re-installed it. Its only purpose of the valve is to keep anti-freeze out of the hot water heater when winterizing. Since I blow out my lines, I did not need the check valve.
Now that the gutted valve is re-installed, I have hot water again.
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10-02-2006, 04:18 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 527
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Our hot water suddenly stopped flowing. Thanks to this forum I learned that many Winnie owners had the same problem with the hot water tank check valves. Once I located and removed the check valve I found it had plastic internal parts that had broken. See photo of plastic part with missing retainer.
My coach is an 2005 Itasca 40 AD manufactured in July of 2004. I understand that later models may have the better brass check valves. Earlier models have the plastic check valves.
If you have not replaced your check valves on your coach you may want to have the necessary tools on hand just in case. The check valve resquires a 1 inch wrench, preferably a ratchet wrench, see photo.
On my coach there was an access door under the motor home and towards the back side of the hot water heater. Once this door was removed I could remove the plastic water pipe nut with pliers. I then had to go to Sears and purchase a 1 inch ratchet wrench. This was the only tool with sufficient torque to loosen the defective check valve in the small space. Once removed, I gutted the valve of its defective parts and re-installed it. Its only purpose of the valve is to keep anti-freeze out of the hot water heater when winterizing. Since I blow out my lines, I did not need the check valve.
Now that the gutted valve is re-installed, I have hot water again.
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10-03-2006, 02:38 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: NE Ohio
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Nice pics LK23! And good write-up.
You're fortunate to have an access panel to the back side of the water heater. I have to undo a lot of plumbing, water pump, and completely pull the water heater out of the compartment to get access to the back on mine. It's been two years and I'm still procrastinating that job! LOL!
I too use air pressure to blow out the lines for winterizing.
Enjoy.
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10-03-2006, 03:41 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Butler, PA
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Great job with the write-up.
Knock on wood, our check valve hasn't acted up yet. It's waiting for a day when were parked on a muddy site in the middle of a rainstorm to break, but when it does, we'll know the fix now.
Thanks
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10-03-2006, 04:15 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North East Indiana
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LK23: Thanks for the great post with pictures. This is useful information most of us can use or will use at some point. Well done.
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10-03-2006, 04:17 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Back at the ranch
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Thanks for the documentation of the problem Rex! Now I wonder if I have the plastic or brass version
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10-03-2006, 04:31 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Thanks for the pictures and description of the repair. I'm a visual person and do much better when I can see the problem and know what to look for. We have not had a problem...yet...but now I'll know how to fix it if we do.
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10-03-2006, 06:13 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by glenda1908:
Thanks for the pictures and description of the repair. I'm a visual person and do much better when I can see the problem and know what to look for. We have not had a problem...yet...but now I'll know how to fix it if we do. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Glenda, you and I will call Lou....right?
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10-03-2006, 10:48 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Glenda, you and I will call Lou....right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You got it ! We have him on speed dial !
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10-03-2006, 11:27 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Port Richey, FL
Posts: 90
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Thanks for the great post!
Now I have to wonder which valves we have in
our 04 40AD
What is "winterizing" ? I dont think we've
had a winter in Florida in centuries.
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10-03-2006, 11:44 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Jul 2004
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NR4A:
What is "winterizing" ? I dont think we've
had a winter in Florida in centuries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
NOT FUNNY Sam.
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10-03-2006, 12:01 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Port Richey, FL
Posts: 90
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10-03-2006, 02:35 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: south NJ
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Homer:
LK23: Thanks for the great post with pictures. This is useful information most of us can use or will use at some point. Well done. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey homer, I don't think we have the check valve in our piping. Least I haven't found it yet.
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10-03-2006, 02:49 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Back at the ranch
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NR4A:
--snip--What is "winterizing" ? I dont think we've
had a winter in Florida in centuries. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>My idea of winterizing is to put on a sweater and avoid shorts
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2005 Horizon 40AD, 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
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10-03-2006, 03:15 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: New Port Richey, FL
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My idea of winterizing is to put on a sweater and avoid shorts </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You can always tell the residents from the tourists here.... at 60 degrees (yes, it does plummet down as low as 60 sometimes) you see the residents walking around in jeans & sweaters - and the tourists are in shorts and T-shirts. It gives them away every time!!!
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New Port Richey, FL
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10-03-2006, 03:23 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: North East Indiana
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BOBPIE: I think that is the 64K question where is it in our rigs. I understand you pretty well have to pull the W/H to get to them. I think I hear mine singing occasionally. Today I heard my motor aid heat fan break into full chorus, dry bearing, can't reach it easy either. RV having fun yet???
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10-03-2006, 07:29 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 527
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I thought the southern version of "Winterizing" was packing up and running from hurricanes.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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10-04-2006, 04:28 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Picayune, MS (New Orleans)
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I have a "Winterizing" switch on my One Place control panel. I just move it from "cool" to "heat".
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10-04-2006, 05:02 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 212
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LK23....I had the same problem and symptoms on my 02 Journey....I traced the lines and found there are 2 check valves serving the water heater...One is the one you found broken (me too) and the other was in the back of the water cabinet where the city fill is...Each check valve serves to limit flow in an opposite direction for winterizing purposes.
I removed the one at the tank completely and everything has functioned well...I have not winterized yet...I don't know if the check valve at the tank feeds water in or out of the tank..if it was supposed to limit in flow, some of the anti freeze will enter the tank upo winterizing...It is easy to disconnect both the in and out lines in the main water cabinet and bypass the heater completely if the auto winterizing system feeds anti freeze into the tank.
I plan to bypass the auto system and put manual shutoff valves in each line..Hope this sheds some light...RKL
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05-04-2010, 10:13 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1
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You guys are the greatest. Was camping this weekend lost hot water pressure. Took out the guts of the check valve put it back in and everything is working great. So just to check the bottom check valve is just for winterizing?
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