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Old 03-25-2017, 10:07 PM   #15
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Preventive maintenance is key. I use MaintainMyRV.com to make sure I getter done! :-) I probably go over board, but it's a labor of love and I have had no issues with my current Winnebago.
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Old 03-25-2017, 10:26 PM   #16
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Some of you digressed from my original question. Hiker agreed with me that the Adventurer has become too expensive and you can get into the Forza for about the same price. So my theory is correct. Only one of you has a new one- all the rest have old ones that are like tanks. Will be interesting to see if the new one will have the dreaded slide problems.
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Old 03-25-2017, 10:32 PM   #17
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Why are there so few Adventurers out there?

The Forza and Journey use the same slides, so I guess I'd have the same issue regardless. I chose the Adventurer because I wanted Journey quality in a gasser. They seem to be selling them as fast as they can make them. I waited 4 months to get mine. This decision fit my needs, but the great thing about motorhomes is that there are so many variations you can usually find one that meets your needs. Best of luck to you in your research!
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:47 AM   #18
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Why do I see little info or used Adventurers out there? Is it because of the cost for a gas A? You can almost go up to Forza for a few bucks more? But the Forza is low end on the diesel and Adventurers are high end on gas. What say yee?
That was exactly us!

We started out looking at the Adventurer when we were ready to upgrade from our 2007 Sightseer.

We loved the layout of the 38Q but when we actually saw one we found the bedroom to be a lot smaller than we had imagined and it was a deal killer.

I also took it for a test drive and while the ride had improved from out 2007 Sightseer which had the 19.5 wheels it still road and had the power of a gas model.

After the disappointment we saw a Forza sitting on the lot and took a walk though. It was a nice looking unit but we didn't act right away.

Over the next several weeks I did some research and I got more interested in the Forza.

The 36G was the floor plan the wife and I preferred so we went to our dealer and really checked one out.

I agree. With some diesels I have seen it is on the lower end but it had a very simple elegance that suits our style.

Once I drove it I was sold! Wow what a difference! The ride and the power difference was incredible. It was so quiet compared to my Sightseer and the Adventurer.

Don't get me wrong we loved our Sightseer. We raised our children in that rig. It near broke my heart to let her go.

When it got down to the bottom line if we went with the Adventurer we were trading for a little more glitz and glamour but the unit was essentially the same. With the Foza we got about the same as we had in the glitz and glamour department but a huge difference in driving handling and we were entering a whole new class.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:52 AM   #19
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Some of you digressed from my original question. Hiker agreed with me that the Adventurer has become too expensive and you can get into the Forza for about the same price. So my theory is correct. Only one of you has a new one- all the rest have old ones that are like tanks. Will be interesting to see if the new one will have the dreaded slide problems.
I didn't mean to imply the Adventurer was over priced. What I meant to imply is that there has to be some logic as to why the Adventurer and Forza are so similarly priced. I believe the difference between the price of the gas chassis and the diesel chassis is more than the difference between the MSRP's.

That leads me to believe there are differences in the quality of the amenities and systems. While they both have refrigerators, air conditioners, ranges, entertainment systems, etc. etc., there may be differences in the quality of those items.

Before making a choice I would make an item by item assessment of each coach. Does one have higher end components than the other? Are the air conditioner/heat pumps, and appliances the same, do the entertainment systems have the same quality components, is the furniture and cabinetry of equal quality.

I'm not being judgmental, but rather questioning how they could sell a model with a gas chassis at a price so close to that of one with a diesel chassis without having differences in the other systems included in each motorhome.

Personally I have not made this assessment. We did make a similar assessment between the Sightseer and the Adventurer in 2013 when we purchased our current motorhome. We felt the difference in systems, amenities, and available options warranted the difference in price.

Keep in mind the smallest F53 gas chassis has a starting price of a little over $27,000.00. From the research I've done the closest I can come to determining the starting price for the Freightliner XCS chassis is a little over double the price.

From the Winnebago website, the MSRP for the smallest Adventurer is $187,000.00. The MSRP for the smallest Forza is $217,000.00. The difference is roughly $30,000.00 which is about the difference in the price of the chassis.
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Old 03-26-2017, 09:29 AM   #20
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I done a nationwide search on rvt and there are a bunch on there for sale ?
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Old 03-26-2017, 12:08 PM   #21
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I done a nationwide search on rvt and there are a bunch on there for sale ?
They are all old ones or brand new ones. None that are just 2 or 3 years old-- the sweet spot of buying a RV.
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Old 03-26-2017, 02:23 PM   #22
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If your talking about used ones not being plentiful......it's kind of like the Newmar Bay Star as (one) example. It's such a great rig, those who have 'em, are keeping 'em.
Yep. The Adventurer is a VERY popular model. A few years ago (may still be?) it was listed as THE most popular model of ANY motorhome so there are definitely a lot of them in use. ...but happy owners tend to hang onto their Adventurers.
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Yep. The Adventurer is a VERY popular model. A few years ago (may still be?) it was listed as THE most popular model of ANY motorhome so there are definitely a lot of them in use. ...but happy owners tend to hang onto their Adventurers.
I have to agree with that, why sell something you are happy with? Love ours!
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Our 35p is due from the factory on 4/7, so there will be at least one more on the road! :-)
I'm assuming that you have ordered a 35P from Winnebago through a dealer. I did the same with our 2016 Sightseer.

I sent Winnebago an email and was able to get updates on the build for our 2016 Sightseer.

Winnebago did not meet the build date my dealer provided. My contact at Winnebago would till me that our coach was in build, paint, test, and ect.

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That is great. I wish I had thought of it. My dealer was WAY off on the delivery time. I did speak to our factory rep and it is supposed to ship here tomorrow. It would have been fun to follow it through the factory.
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We have a 2015 Suncruiser 37F and two years into full time RVing, we still think we bought the right rig - Schwinteks not withstanding.

There does not seem to be a lot of them on the used market. I think I agree with some of the others posts that if you like what you've got, why change it?
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That is great. I wish I had thought of it. My dealer was WAY off on the delivery time. I did speak to our factory rep and it is supposed to ship here tomorrow. It would have been fun to follow it through the factory.
When our coach was delivered to Washington State the delivery driver hit something on his way. I didn't notice the damage at first but after our new rig was home I noticed spider web cracking around the passenger's side headlight. More investigation showed that the front cap fiberglass had been fractured underneath the front.

My dealer had their bodyshop fix the damage. The fix was good and I'm happy now.

When your new rig arrives give it a thorough inspection.

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Definitely. Someone was good enough to post a thorough inspection checklist. I plan to take the whole day to go through it.
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