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Old 12-22-2016, 11:18 AM   #15
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I believe propane tanks must be used in the position that they were designed to be used in. You want the gas vapor to burn in appliances. If you lay a 100 lb tank on its side you take a chance of the liquid entering your system. I'm sure there are more knowledgeable folks here to help you out. We lived in a 5er for a winter and I used a 100# tank in the upright position with a stay a while kit from the local RV supply store. Worked great for us.


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IF it was connected directly to the LPG outlet yes ;;But as I understood the OP he was using the 100lb tank to be refilling his current RV supply tank
two different ideals as to stand or lay
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:20 PM   #16
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all u need is the transfer hose that goes from the valve on your 100lb bottle to the fill valve on the mh most likely lay the 100 lb bottle on its side we used this method when filling a vehicle that had run out of fuel
only using a 20lb bottle

DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!!

I worked in the Propane industry for 20 years.

DO NOT EVER LAY A PROPANE CYLINDER ON ITS SIDE !!!! EVER !!!

Propane is in liquid form in the tank and you draw propane gas out of the top of the tank. It changes from liquid to gas as pressure drops from using the gas in the top of the tank. A propane tank is NEVER filled more than 90%. The 10% is the space needed to allow the liquid to change to a gas state. Your regulator and your appliances use GAS NOT LIQUID. Therefore you DO NOT want to introduce liquid propane into them. Not only will it cause them to freeze up it will over pressurize them increasing the chance of a leaks, fire, burns and death.

The exception to this rule is Forklift propane tanks and motor fuel propane tanks that are specifically designed to be laid on their side. They have a draw tube inside that causes them to draw LIQUID propane because forklifts and vehicle converted to run on propane use what is called a propane converter to convert the liquid to a gas state for the engine. Because those applications need a higher flow of propane.

So this means also... That you should never try and use a forklift tank or motor fuel tank and a rigged hose for your appliances Unless the tank has been set up to use the VAPOR outlet on the tank.

BE SAFE WHEN IT COMES TO PROPANE USAGE! IT IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPLOSIVE FUELS TO BE AROUND. AND SIMPLY CONTACTING LIQUID PROPANE ON YOUR SKIN WILL BURN YOU.
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:28 PM   #17
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DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!!!

I worked in the Propane industry for 20 years.

DO NOT EVER LAY A PROPANE CYLINDER ON ITS SIDE !!!! EVER !!!

Propane is in liquid form in the tank and you draw propane gas out of the top of the tank. It changes from liquid to gas as pressure drops from using the gas in the top of the tank. A propane tank is NEVER filled more than 90%. The 10% is the space needed to allow the liquid to change to a gas state. Your regulator and your appliances use GAS NOT LIQUID. Therefore you DO NOT want to introduce liquid propane into them. Not only will it cause them to freeze up it will over pressurize them increasing the chance of a leaks, fire, burns and death.

The exception to this rule is Forklift propane tanks and motor fuel propane tanks that are specifically designed to be laid on their side. They have a draw tube inside that causes them to draw LIQUID propane because forklifts and vehicle converted to run on propane use what is called a propane converter to convert the liquid to a gas state for the engine. Because those applications need a higher flow of propane.

So this means also... That you should never try and use a forklift tank or motor fuel tank and a rigged hose for your appliances Unless the tank has been set up to use the VAPOR outlet on the tank.

BE SAFE WHEN IT COMES TO PROPANE USAGE! IT IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPLOSIVE FUELS TO BE AROUND. AND SIMPLY CONTACTING LIQUID PROPANE ON YOUR SKIN WILL BURN YOU.
you need to read and understand the application I was referring to
I clearly said WHEN TRANSFERING FUEL(filling) one tank from another
no one suggested to lay the tank down and run appliances directly from it
yes a car uses a liquid outlet fed to a converter system and yes a RV tank uses a vapour outlet to a regulater
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:41 PM   #18
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The proper thing to do is go to a propane dealer and get what is called an Extend a stay kit. It will give you the ability to connect the 100Lb cylinder to your propane inlet and use propane from the 100lb cylinder.

I cant stress enough how much you are flirting with disaster if you try transferring liquid propane from one tank to another with a rigged hose system. You will never recover from the burns you will receive if you make the slightest mistake.
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:45 PM   #19
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The proper thing to do is go to a propane dealer and get what is called an Extend a stay kit. It will give you the ability to connect the 100Lb cylinder to your propane inlet and use propane from the 100lb cylinder.

I cant stress enough how much you are flirting with disaster if you try transferring liquid propane from one tank to another with a rigged hose system. You will never recover from the burns you will receive if you make the slightest mistake.
the extend-a-stay system is very correct however transferring LPG from one tank to another via a transfer hose is not flirting with disaster in any way. its a safe easy system that I have done hundreds of time when doing LPG convertions.the system was used when u installed a new tank in a car or truck and need lpg to pressure test and fire up the new system
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:49 PM   #20
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we might have family staying for week in the motorhome..im not driving it to get Propane..can i hook a hose from a 100 lb bottle to the RV filler .i have a cheater hose i used in my towing business to bring propane to vehicles that ran out..but the new tanks dont let propane out as fast like the old ones did?
Hey Ken;
If you were able to deliver propane to vehicles this should be the same. Only thing is the 100 bottle will have to be upside down when you open it to run liquid into the ASME tank. You will also have to have to open the bleed valve on the ASME tank to reduce the pressure so the liquid will flow from the 100.

Other thing that could be done is unhook propane line from ASME tank, add enough extension to the propane line so you can hook up and run vapor from the 100 lb tank. If you have two 100 lb tanks you could add a changeover regulator and have a constant supply from two bottles until it is time to hit the road. Then revert everything back to the way it was. You will still have the 100 bottles, line extension and changeover regulator for future use.
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the extend-a-stay system is very correct however transferring LPG from one tank to another via a transfer hose is not flirting with disaster in any way. its a safe easy system that I have done hundreds of time when doing LPG convertions.the system was used when u installed a new tank in a car or truck and need lpg to pressure test and fire up the new system

WRONG! Liquid transfer hoses for tank to tank are illegal in most states.
And if you don't believe me go to a propane dealer and ask for one. They are going to tell you NO!

And the reason for this is because you have to bleed off the receiving tank. And liquid propane is -45 degrees. Which is enough to cause severe burns without catching on fire.
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Old 12-22-2016, 02:17 PM   #22
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WRONG! Liquid transfer hoses for tank to tank are illegal in most states.
And if you don't believe me go to a propane dealer and ask for one. They are going to tell you NO!
I could care less; Iam simply telling you what we did when we did LPG convertions and what the op could do if he wanted to simply transfer LPG from his 100lb tank to his Rv tank rather than have it actually hooked up to the rv that was 20 years ago iam sure things have changed and maybe no longer available
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I could care less; Iam simply telling you what we did when we did LPG convertions and what the op could do if he wanted to simply transfer LPG from his 100lb tank to his Rv tank rather than have it actually hooked up to the rv that was 20 years ago iam sure things have changed and maybe no longer available
Well I'm just a guy with 20 yrs first hand knowledge in the propane industry. And liquid propane is not something the average Joe should be meddling with. The damage from liquid propane burns Never goes away.
And I care enough to inform people to not mess with it.
Spend the time and money to do it THE RIGHT WAY.
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Old 12-23-2016, 09:49 AM   #24
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100 lb bottle to RV

yes, i know not to lay a bottle on its side. we dont have a propane dealer anymore and the 3 RV dealers wont recommend anything due to liability.so i will just use the propane in it till it runs out ,then use a modern electric heater. i lost my garage due to bad information about the modern furnace 3 yrs ago. not going thru another fire..
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And the reason for this is because you have to bleed off the receiving tank. And liquid propane is -45 degrees. Which is enough to cause severe burns without catching on fire.
??? Don't understand this. Just had my 20 lb filled and the fellow opened the bleed valve while filling the tank. Makes me wonder because the tank is equipped with a shut off that stops the filling before the bleed valve shows liquid.
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Well I'm just a guy with 20 yrs first hand knowledge in the propane industry. And liquid propane is not something the average Joe should be meddling with. The damage from liquid propane burns Never goes away.
And I care enough to inform people to not mess with it.
Spend the time and money to do it THE RIGHT WAY.
whatever I have more than 20 years under my belt and its certainly needs to be handled correctly but then again so does electricity and gasoline and natural gas etc ;; hooking a transfer hose to fill one tank from another is certainly not dangerous in my eyes and you keep talking about burns>?
what burns and how? your making a mountain out of a molehill here with those statements. if you talking bleed valves well one should wear gloves and if possible use a bleed wrench for sure
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??? Don't understand this. Just had my 20 lb filled and the fellow opened the bleed valve while filling the tank. Makes me wonder because the tank is equipped with a shut off that stops the filling before the bleed valve shows liquid.

agreed lots of filling people don't really know the ins and outs of 80% auto stop valves for sure
BUT lots of tanks don't have the valve so I think it just becomes a habit to open the 80% manual valve and call it a day
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