Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-12-2007, 04:48 AM   #1
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 211
I have a read rad 02 Journey with a Cat 330...Last year I changed the coolant and put in 5 year coolant...I plan to check the SCA this summer but not sure of how or where to add it....Some one suggested plumbing an in line coolant filter in front of the heater core..This NAPA filter will add SCA automatically....Is this a good suggestion or is there an easier way to add if needed...thanks RKL
RKL2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 04:48 AM   #2
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 211
I have a read rad 02 Journey with a Cat 330...Last year I changed the coolant and put in 5 year coolant...I plan to check the SCA this summer but not sure of how or where to add it....Some one suggested plumbing an in line coolant filter in front of the heater core..This NAPA filter will add SCA automatically....Is this a good suggestion or is there an easier way to add if needed...thanks RKL
RKL2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 05:09 AM   #3
Winnebago Camper
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Signal Mtn TN
Posts: 31
I think you just add it to your coolant reservoir and it will mix. Usually no more than 1 pint is necessary...
__________________
Steve B.

05 Journey 36G CAT C7
diesellabs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 02:31 PM   #4
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 162
Check the level with an appropriate test kit and then add as needed. Use the right additive to "sweeten" to coolant, if you put in the red extended life, probably won't need any for a couple of years.
Might be a real good idea for you to have a chat with a Cat service person who is knowledgable and willing to share his knowledge of coolant. A NAPA or WIX filter dealer might have a last years master filter cross reference manual he'd let you have, a whole section in the back that addresses any coolant question you might have.
gunny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 04:01 PM   #5
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 211
thanks guys.....I appreciate the input...RKL
RKL2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 05:45 PM   #6
Winnebago Master
 
smlranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 2,170
I'm certainly no expert but when I first got this rig in '05, test strip showed SCA's low. I put in one pint of Pencool additive purchased at the local FL dealer....just poured it into the reservoir..... after a brief run, the coolant tested right on

Had the system flushed and refilled last fall and I've checked it twice and its OK.
__________________
'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 05:56 PM   #7
Winnebago Owner
 
rvarner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pahrump, NV
Posts: 125
I hate acronyms with a passion. What the H*** is SCA's
REichard
__________________
2004 Horizon 40AD/ISC 350/2012 SILVERADO or 2008 Chevy HHR/Demco/Vmspc/FMCA-F394912/SKP-115085/2004 Can-Am Outlander/2013 Polaris RZR
rvarner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 06:17 PM   #8
Winnebago Master
 
smlranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 2,170
rvarner:

SCA = supplemental coolant additives.
__________________
'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
smlranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2007, 05:49 PM   #9
Winnebago Owner
 
rvarner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pahrump, NV
Posts: 125
Why would I need that? Have never heard of adding SCAs to any coolant. Am I missing something?
Thanks
Richard
__________________
2004 Horizon 40AD/ISC 350/2012 SILVERADO or 2008 Chevy HHR/Demco/Vmspc/FMCA-F394912/SKP-115085/2004 Can-Am Outlander/2013 Polaris RZR
rvarner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2007, 07:43 AM   #10
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 211
Richard....The proper SCA quantities are necessary to revent erosion of the metals and linings in the cooling system with certain diesel engines....There are test strips to check the 3 specific additives levels...This info should be in your Freightliner book....
RKL
RKL2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2007, 01:58 PM   #11
Winnebago Owner
 
rvarner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pahrump, NV
Posts: 125
Can't seem to find it in the Freightliner book. I am looking under the "coolant replacement" section of the "OPERATOR'S/MAINTENANCE" Manual and nothing is said about SCAs.
Thanks
Richard
__________________
2004 Horizon 40AD/ISC 350/2012 SILVERADO or 2008 Chevy HHR/Demco/Vmspc/FMCA-F394912/SKP-115085/2004 Can-Am Outlander/2013 Polaris RZR
rvarner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2007, 04:09 PM   #12
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 211
Richard...suggest going on Cat or Cummins web site and searching coolant/sca's...or do a search on this forum...RKL
RKL2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2007, 06:08 PM   #13
Winnebago Camper
 
Teach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southwest Missouri
Posts: 8
Richard, try this:

SCA's Explained
__________________
Happy Trails, Gary
2006 Excursion 39S, Freightliner, Cat 350
2010 Honda Fit and Buster, the wonder dog
Teach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2007, 06:12 PM   #14
Winnie-Wise
 
David K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Grayson, GA
Posts: 337
Richard You can also go to the Spartan Chassis section of this form -- right under form you are presently in and look at the posting for antifreeze requirements for diesel engines -- good posting there talking about SCA's and the requirements for them and why you need them.
__________________
Dave and Karen -- '02 Ultimate Advantage 36 C, 350 HP Cummins, Allison 3060 Tranny
'13 Ford Edge, InvisiBrake
David K is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2007, 12:23 PM   #15
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 134
My Coach is a 2005 Winnegabo Vectra with a CAT 350 Engine and Freightliner Frame. I have been doing research on the extended life coolant and what to use to check them.....I had decussions with Freighliner who verified they use Fleet Charge (pink in color) not "Fleet Guard" and that this extended life coolant is a two way ethylene based formula not three way coolant ..it does not contain "Molybdates". The proper test strips are the PenRay 2 Way Test Strips # PIC TS 102 and the proper coolant SCA additive is PenRay Technology #PIC 300016. The Phone # for Fleet Charge Distributors and Help Line is (800) 323-8755. I found a truck shop in my area that carried both. The test is extremely easy to do and understand. You take a sample of your coolant and not from the holding tank, dip the test strip in for 2 seconds and shake off. In 45 seconds you compare the test strip to the color guage on the side of the bottle. If there is a correction that needs to be done, it will tell you how much SCA additive to add based how how many quarts your cooling system holds.
__________________
http://www.irv2.com/photopost/data/500/kenbtsigpic.jpg

2005 Winnebago Vectra 36RD
kenbt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2007, 05:41 PM   #16
GG1
Winnie-Wise
 
GG1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: WHITING,NJ,USA
Posts: 465
I went in circles for a few weeks talking with Freightliner and Cat reps they all gave me conflicting stories about what type of test strips to use and how to perform the test. Finally I got disgusted went to a local Peterbuilt dealer. He simply asked me what coolant I used told me to bring in a sample used a 2 way penray strip as "kenbt"stated and I was done. Go figure!!
__________________
07 Itasca Ellipse 40fd, 2014 Honda CRV, greyhound lab mix, pit pointer mix(RIP bessie) , shar pei mix, stupid cat, wife
GG1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2007, 03:45 PM   #17
Winnebago Owner
 
rvarner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pahrump, NV
Posts: 125
Thanks All,
I have no information about this in the Freightliner owners book that came with the rig but found it on their web site ("KNOW YOUR CHASSIS"). I just recently had the coach serviced and was told they would "test" the coolant. Could this be what they were talking about? If I had of known that class "A" diesels were such a PITA, I would have gone with a class "C" with a diesel. Something like the Duramax that I have for my travel trailer.
Richard
__________________
2004 Horizon 40AD/ISC 350/2012 SILVERADO or 2008 Chevy HHR/Demco/Vmspc/FMCA-F394912/SKP-115085/2004 Can-Am Outlander/2013 Polaris RZR
rvarner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-2007, 06:43 PM   #18
Winnebago Master
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Northern Oklahoma
Posts: 871
rvarner - I know just how you feel. This is my first DP and after 3 years ownership I get more confused and frustrated at lack of exacting information every day. If it wasn't for the torque of the diesels I'd sure go back to something I know more about, gasoline engines. Hopefully things will get better sometime for all of us.
Wagonmaster2
2004 Meridian 36G
wagonmaster2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2007, 03:19 AM   #19
Winnebago Master
 
ichn2go's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seaford, VA
Posts: 1,047
I am not all the mechanically inclined but I used Cat Extended Life Coolant (ELC)in my 3126. I think it lasts a lot longer than the regular coolant. There is a additive you can use, I bought it this spring and sold the coach so it went with it...Good, Safe Miles
__________________
Happy Trails! ICHN2GO, Seaford VA,
06, 34 Newmar Ventana
02 Jeep Liberty
ichn2go is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2007, 05:30 PM   #20
Winnebago Camper
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Posts: 8
THis is a very confusing issue. FL puts in the AF when your unit is new. They do not use expended life coolant. If you go to the Cat website there is a document called Cat lubrication guide. There is a whole section on AF and SCA'a. The coolant that FL puts in requires you to test the AF and add SCA as required. From what I have read OTR vehicles do not have this problem as they use a coolant filter that automatically adds the SCA. MH mfrs. do not normally supply these filters. If you are going to change the AF in a Cat vehicle be sure to read that document. FL wil only confuse you. They use the cheapest coolant available. Cat actually recommends the ELC product. There has been quite a discussion on this subject in the Yahoo FL forum.


Moisheh

Moisheh
__________________
Moisheh
2008 Dynasty 42' Diamond IV
2009 Silverado Toad
moisheh is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
SCA cooling additive question wagonmaster2 General Maintenance and Repair 13 12-07-2005 05:19 PM
330 Cat engine drain plug RKL2 General Maintenance and Repair 9 11-21-2005 12:08 PM
Has anyone ever changed air filter on 39qd/330 CAT GG1 General Maintenance and Repair 7 04-08-2005 08:28 AM
fuel water separator on 330 Cat Big Ben Winnebago General Discussions 6 03-19-2005 02:27 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Winnebago Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×