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01-09-2006, 12:43 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Back at the ranch
Posts: 2,041
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We stopped at a Pilot truck stop on the way home from the driving school and I tried out my new and magic device to slow down the fill rate at the truck mega nozzles.
Actually I borrowed the idea from another forum - it is just a wooden wedge that fits between the pump handle and the pump frame. I pull up the handle a little bit and then stick the wedge in and adjust it until I get the slow fill rate that I need to minimize foaming.
We each thought we should take about 55 gallons to top off the tank and sure enough that's about what I was able to get in the tank. It took about 15 minutes or so to fill up so we managed a fill rate probably close to a car-type diesel pump.
The real proof will be when I can repeat this performance two or three more times.
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2005 Horizon 40AD, 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
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01-09-2006, 12:43 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Back at the ranch
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We stopped at a Pilot truck stop on the way home from the driving school and I tried out my new and magic device to slow down the fill rate at the truck mega nozzles.
Actually I borrowed the idea from another forum - it is just a wooden wedge that fits between the pump handle and the pump frame. I pull up the handle a little bit and then stick the wedge in and adjust it until I get the slow fill rate that I need to minimize foaming.
We each thought we should take about 55 gallons to top off the tank and sure enough that's about what I was able to get in the tank. It took about 15 minutes or so to fill up so we managed a fill rate probably close to a car-type diesel pump.
The real proof will be when I can repeat this performance two or three more times.
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2005 Horizon 40AD, 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
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01-09-2006, 02:16 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Destin, FL
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Sounds WAY too hi tech to me.
Thudman
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01-09-2006, 03:29 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 69
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John,
If you haven't tried it yet when you fill-up, open the other fill also it allows better venting.
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01-09-2006, 03:34 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 409
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Not too high tech. However, it's hand carved teak wood with 4 coats of tongue oil. Engraved with "John and Jane Canfield"
Oh Ya!!! It winks at you while it's up against the MH.
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2016 Jayco White Hawk 27dsrl
2015 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 diesel 4x4
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01-09-2006, 03:58 PM
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Administrator Emeritus
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 1,319
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It's also embedded with a GPS chip as to allow it to be tracked if it's lost....
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01-09-2006, 04:42 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Back at the ranch
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DonavonP:
Not too high tech. However, it's hand carved teak wood with 4 coats of tongue oil. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>The current one is Version 2.0; Version 1.0 was way too large to fit ![](http://irv2.infopop.cc/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) the space in the pump handle. I think there will be a Version 2.1 since 2.0 is still not quite right.
... I saved this nice little piece of maple that I have in my goodie box ... Hmmm it could use a pressure transducer so I could more precisely set the flow rate ...
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hogbreth:
John,
If you haven't tried it yet when you fill-up, open the other fill also it allows better venting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That was one of the first things I tried as I had read about that trick on rv.net. That was an unqualified failure as I then had foam coming out both filler necks ![](http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/rock.gif) . Apparently my problem wasn't insufficient venting, it was just foaming fuel.
I'll feel better when I can replicate this triumph a couple of more times.
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2005 Horizon 40AD, 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
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01-10-2006, 01:48 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seaford, VA
Posts: 1,046
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Hey John, don't let these guys bug you.
Use Canadian Moose Antlers in the pump handle if you like.
I am using a piece of African Olive and I am up to version 3.15. It is hand rubbed with 15 coats of Jack Daniels. You can get a buzz just by smelling it. I like mine and I know yours works too.
You just keep on doin and one day you can come to VA and make some mods on my coach...
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06, 34 Newmar Ventana
02 Jeep Liberty
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01-10-2006, 02:27 AM
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Administrator Emeritus
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Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Hey Jim,maybe we could make John a sweet deal on modifications in Virginia...
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01-10-2006, 03:28 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Back at the ranch
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rebelsbeach:
Hey Jim,maybe we could make John a sweet deal on modifications in Virginia... ![](http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/laugh.gif) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Gosh, I should have kept the house and shop and set up an RV mod business...
I like Jimmy's idea about the hand-rubbed Jack D!
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2005 Horizon 40AD, 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD
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01-10-2006, 04:03 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Sarver, PA/Crystal River, FL/Shelocta, PA
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I've been doing this for a long time but I use the gas cap.
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01-10-2006, 05:05 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seaford, VA
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rebelsbeach:
Hey Jim,maybe we could make John a sweet deal on modifications in Virginia... ![](http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/laugh.gif) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm for it.He can stay here , use the outhouse and
drink my Jack. LOL,,Heck Bob,,if he does enough Mods I would take him to the Williamsburg Inn.
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Happy Trails! ICHN2GO, Seaford VA,
06, 34 Newmar Ventana
02 Jeep Liberty
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01-10-2006, 05:26 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Tehachapi, Ca.
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When I was at the factory I complained about slow fuel fill rate and they re routed the fuel fill hoses and said it should be fine now!! ![](http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/nod.gif) wrong! First fill up was same old thing so I to have gone with the stuff some thing in the gas pump handle routine! My first version was tightly rolledup newspaper, but I like the idea of a wood whiskey weggie, but I think Makers Mark rubbed one would be my choice
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01-10-2006, 06:43 AM
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Administrator Emeritus
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ichn2go:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rebelsbeach:
Hey Jim,maybe we could make John a sweet deal on modifications in Virginia... ![](http://irv2.infopop.cc/images/laugh.gif) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm for it.He can stay here , use the outhouse and
drink my Jack. LOL,,Heck Bob,,if he does enough Mods I would take him to the Williamsburg Inn. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Geez....a bidding war??
I "see" your Williamsburg Inn and raise ya a catered dinner on the American Rover Tri-master
(John's has that sailing in his blood...)
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01-10-2006, 06:54 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 134
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John:I was hoping for a picture of it so I can duplicate it.....have you ever looked at how Winnebago routed the filler tubes...first a right turn and then a left turn before entering the tank and then they use a very small diameter filler tube to boot. That really complicates the foaming action of the fuel...I believe one of the filler tubes could be motified from 90 degree turns to more like 45 degree which would stop some of the foaming action...take a look at yours and let me know what you think
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01-10-2006, 07:21 AM
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Administrator Emeritus
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Ken,I took some pics of my filler neck routings and placed them on my photo page.
Click photos on the top right of these pages and go to my pics....
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01-10-2006, 07:27 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seaford, VA
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Hey Bob, thought we were working this together. I think both outings is a little rich..
After all a outhouse AND the Willimsburg Inn..Outta be close to what he needs but if you think we need to sweeten the pot then maybe we could throw in a trip to -----Burger King? Jim
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Happy Trails! ICHN2GO, Seaford VA,
06, 34 Newmar Ventana
02 Jeep Liberty
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01-10-2006, 09:28 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 134
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How about the picture of your filler adjuster tool you made....after looking at the routing of the filler neck don't you believe we can alter especially the passenger side with some 45's instead of 90 degree turns so as not to allow the gas to back up quickly and foam
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01-10-2006, 10:55 AM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bryan, Texas
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">it was just foaming fuel </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe your rig has rabies?
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01-10-2006, 12:03 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Duncan, Okla
Posts: 56
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A quarter inserted in the same place will also slow the fill rate if you are having fill problems...used this method on old horizon we had...
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