What's NOT Available on '07 Journeys - Available Prior

[Pusherman]

Still going through the discovery process on my new '07 Journey. Here's what I found is no longer available on the '07's which was either standard or optional on prior year units:

CB Antenna -- discontinued for '07
50' Air Hose -- standard on '06 and prior
Built-in hair dryer -- standard on '05 and prior
Smart Wheel (w/ CAT C7) -- discontinued for '07
Coffee Maker -- standard on '05 and prior
Oven -- not available for '07

What is now standard on '07 from prior year:

Automatic Leveling Jacks -- optional prior to '07 w/ manual jacks standard
8KW Quiet Diesel Generator -- was 7.5KW generator prior

I may have missed a couple items, but this is the list I discovered. Some of the old amenities were nice to have. Now I have to go out and acquire some of these items myself (just installed an under-the-counter coffee pot -- boy was that a pain!).

Don't know about others, but all these little items surely increased my customer satisfaction in the past.

 

[Pusherman]

Still going through the discovery process on my new '07 Journey. Here's what I found is no longer available on the '07's which was either standard or optional on prior year units:

CB Antenna -- discontinued for '07
50' Air Hose -- standard on '06 and prior
Built-in hair dryer -- standard on '05 and prior
Smart Wheel (w/ CAT C7) -- discontinued for '07
Coffee Maker -- standard on '05 and prior
Oven -- not available for '07

What is now standard on '07 from prior year:

Automatic Leveling Jacks -- optional prior to '07 w/ manual jacks standard
8KW Quiet Diesel Generator -- was 7.5KW generator prior

I may have missed a couple items, but this is the list I discovered. Some of the old amenities were nice to have. Now I have to go out and acquire some of these items myself (just installed an under-the-counter coffee pot -- boy was that a pain!).

Don't know about others, but all these little items surely increased my customer satisfaction in the past.

 

[diesellabs]

Somebody probably got a bonus for reducing costs. Our '05 didn't come with a coffee maker; it was a late model-year build so I guess they had already dropped it. We do love having both the conventional oven and the convection-microwave. The CB antenna is so-so; ours has already been replaced once under warranty for the common rust-spring syndrome. (Does Winnie run a cable to the roof or what as part of their '07 CB prep?) I like my Smart Wheel, though I've read of electrical connection problems with some units.

Oh well, you pays your money and takes your chances....

 

[KirbyRVA]

Bummer. I like my coffee maker, althought I understand when it does crash, there is not an identical replacement for it.

As far as the CB antenna, I don't think you are missing much these days without a CB.

The little coiled black air hose that was with mine was crummy (if that is what came with the coach). Replaced it with a good air hose.

We have the hair dryer but the DW prefers her own and I'm way too ugly

to bother with using a hair dryer.

Smart Wheel?? Not something I have or know about but does it make the driver smarter

??

Oven?? We use it primarily to store a couple of pans. I think we used it once. I understand a full oven is now an option on most.

Everything changes......

 

[jthvalkyrie]

FWIW: I have a 2007 Itasca Meridian 36G with the Cat C7 (sister ship to the Journey). It came with the SmartWheel as an option.

stay safe,
John

 

[Pusherman]

I'm assuming the same relative to some of these issues. We sorely miss the coffee pot. The installation of the new one was a pain. Had to remove the cabinet inner base to add a securing block of wood to mount the under-cabinet spacemaker coffee pot. Still working on the electrical hookup (which won't be trivial either).

The DW liked the hair dryer. Me -- I don't have much use for one (a little thin up there

).

We actually get a lot of use out of the oven, as I like to cook and we do a fair amount of boondocking. We had Winnebago retrofit an oven into the unit (at additional cost!!).

I am guessing that there were reliability issues with the smart wheel, and that's why it was discontinued.

On the CB antenna, the one on our '00 Journey didn't work too well; but to install one on the new one will be significant work (No, there is no wiring to the roof). I use it primarily to monitor road conditions when there is a backup.

So I agree that some of these items may be of questionable use, but to replace them is costing a lot more than if the factory would have installed them in the first place.

Sure wish some of these things were available, even as options.

 

[boulderado]

The full oven was a selling point for us and we have used it several times. Ours came with an air hose and CB antenna, but no SmartWheel as ours has the 'baby' Cummins. I guess they have to make a few changes year over year to distinguish the model years?

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[CaptBill-WO]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by smlranger:
Bummer. I like my coffee maker, althought I understand when it does crash, there is not an identical replacement for it.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Black & Decker still makes the SpaceSaver under-cabinet coffee-makers. I've seen them in Wal-Mart a few times, for about $50. and a quick google searce turned up many on-line retailers that stock them.