Furnace Not Igniting 2008 Sightseer 34M

bugzee

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I've looked at a bunch of "furnace" threads but haven't come across this particular issue....
08 Sightseer 34m
Furnace blower starts, runs for 30 sec. then stops.
All other gas appliances work normally. (not the regulator, I assume)
Air intake / exhaust appear clear. I assume the sail switch is working.
When fan is running at start up I cannot hear the igniter clicking, like I believe I should....?
I'm not afraid to take the furnace out but I'm not keen to do it if I don't know why I should.
thanks
 
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I might go with the idea the sail switch is NOT working as there is normally a delay to check that air is flowing well before the rest of the deal starts.
Assume you have two round vents on the RV side? One is intake, the other is outlet. If you put a hand near them you should feel definite air moving if the blower is moving air and that is what makes the sail move to close.
If wasps, mud dauber, etc can get in, it is common for them to stop the sail from moving!
While some info says not, I have never been able to go long term without screening the vents to keep bugs out as they seem to love propane!
talking to folks who study bugs, I find they want specific places for nesting. Air and dry are two, so when they nest in the furnace ducts, they go far enough back to be dry but also close for air!
If you are not screened to keep them out, it may be worthwhile to probe in this venting to see if you snag a paper nest out!
Don't worry about them being home! :laugh:
Probe gently in case the switch sail is close by as it is not clear from this drawing. Not wanting to snag it and tear it off!
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But it may take getting the furnace out to get to the sail switch if they decide that looks better! If you go online for a furnace manual, it may give a better idea of where it sets?
 
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Awesome information, Morich - thank you.
I did put my hand in front of the intake and exhaust pipes and they both had
some air movement but of course I have no reference as to what they should be...
I'll try digging around in there (gently) and see what I can find.
thanks again
 
While it can be the sail switch, as that is a common issue, when my RV’s Furnace behaved this way the problem turned out to be a faulty circuit board. Replacing the board was the only fix needed.

DIY fixes can be “simple” when they turn out to be the easy thing everyone has seen before, but they can also be better left in the hands trained technicians that can diagnose the not so simple problems.
 
Yes, the problems can often be the circuit board as it has to make several decisions in the process of getting the burner lit.
Knowing what to expect is a big part of finding the cause.
The process for many is this:
1. We turn the thermostat on heat. That sends the signal to the furnace, leaving things like bad contacts, etc. in the thermostat itself or bad connections to the furnace.
If we know where and what change should happen at the furnace, we can test to make sure it is happening!
2. The blower should come on. That is when RV and home furnaces are different as a safety item. In RV they do not open the gas valve until there is full air flow as a way to avoid filling the RV with gas!
When air is flowing well, the "sail" on the sail switch moves and closes a microswitch. The sail may be stuck on spider webs, etc. So having a manual to tell us where those wires to the switch are found can save us pulling the furnace out on some! We can put a meter or the wires and look for change when the airflows!
3. The timing built into the board starts and it either gets positive air or it times out and shuts down! This is where I feel you may be on this one.
4. If it gets good air, it lets the rest go forward. It may heat an igniter and then open the gas solenoid or it may have a "clicker" type ignition which we can see/hear start.
5. Finally the gas opens and we should see it light!
If the flame senser doesn't get a flame, the gas valve closes and doesn't fill the furnace with gas to blow up!
Minor differences in some heaters and certainly different boards and connections make me look for info. That info on hand lets me go through and check , starting with the item where the whole train stopped.
It seems tedious and lots of people do skip over getting the right info but I find it very easy to miss some tiny obvious item that takes me much longer to find and fix than I spend getting the right info.
One of the big failures I find at RV repair shops is the people are often semi-familiar with all the different items on RV but not really of the sort who want to go into knowing exactly each items on hundreds of different RV. And they tend to be less inclined to go look for details but often turn out to be "part changers"!
It saves them time but it also costs us money because we still pay for the parts even if there was only one bad! They also tend to change a part and say it fixed things when the real problem may have only been bad connections on that part.
Putting on a new part is ONE way to get clean connections! But not the one I like to pay to get!
In your case, it can be the sail switch is stuck or bad.
It can be the board is bad and the signal is ever sent to the sail switch. OR it can be the wire between the two points is corroded and a good wiggle of the right connection may fix the whole problem.
By nature, RV tend to have more corrosion problems than our cars. First they have lots more and second we may leave them setting for longer to let the corrosion build up more before we drive them to wiggle those connections and break the corrosion build up! :facepalm:
 
I just had the same issue with my 2108FBS. There was hair from our dog (Boarder Collie/ Husky X) on the sail switch. There was enough to prevent the switch from making the connection to open the gas valve. Once I cleaned the switch, the furnace has worked perfectly.
 
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Again, thanks for all the great info !
I went back in with my meter and checked the sail switch function. It is not dirty or clogged up with my Lab's fur. Operates normally and the meter shows the switch has continuity.
So, I've now come to the conclusion that the circuit board is bad - disregarding limit switches (which might be a mistake?)
From what I've read, I should avoid the cheap boards go with a Dinosaur? These seem a bit pricey, especially not knowing for sure that this is the problem.
I've winterized and am about to put the rig in storage for a couple of months before heading south, so I really want to get this sorted before then as dealing with it in December in Wisconsin will be no fun.
Any other bright ideas will certainly be welcome!
 

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