Breaker labelled "general" 2024 Micro Minnie FLX

[ChrisRiley]

We have a 2024 Micro Minnie FLX. Does anyone know what the AC circuit breaker labelled "general" is for?

 

[bigbAZ]

In the electrical field "general" refers to "general lighting and receptacles" which are those circuits that supply multiple lights and non dedicated wall outlets in multiple rooms and multiple areas, however in 2005 a code change regarding equipment labeling resulted in many areas requiring more detail to the circuit directory as well, although that was not actually stated in the new requirements. A "general" label on a new panel today can result in a failed inspection in some areas depending on how the local authority interprets the code requirements.

Of course in a 2024 RV all the lights are 12 volt so it refers to "general use receptacles". To identify which ones, just switch all the breakers off except that one and test each outlet, they will be the 15 amp ones like bedroom, living area etc. It should not include galley or bath plugs, or dedicated equipment like the AC, water heater and microwave.

There is also the slight chance it is un-used in which case they should have labeled it "spare" although an un-used breaker in a small RV would be a pretty rare thing, never heard of it myself. To check, remove the front and see if there is a wire attached.

 

[Morich]

To put it a different way, it will not be the breakers that feed 12VDC, so no need to try them. Likely the load center has two sections, one for 12V and the other for the 110. It is not likely to be anything bigger than 15Amp, so start with sorting which breakers it is NOT. Ignore those for air, microwave, as they are likely bigger, and look at the others as there are likely not many that fit that group?
Good change it is outlets.

 

[ChrisRiley]

There are 5 AC breakers. They are labelled AC, Microwave, GFCI, Main, and General. Every 110 outlet in the trailer has a sticker that sez "GFCI". So the mysterious "general" breaker is for something besides outlets. I guess?

 

[Morich]

The trailers bu8lt and sold by Winnebago are made by a company that Winnebago has bought, if my info is correct. As I understand it, the company that makes trailers is not always in step with the practice that the motorhome line uses, so we might expect some differences in how things are wired or labeled?
But as a general rule, I would not expect the micro and air cond. to be small breakers as they need more power.
Main breaker is usually one that feeds the rest in the box, so that seems out.
I'm not thinking of anything else that uses AC that is likely to be on the trailer but there are lots of small points on them that I may have missed.

Does the water heater have an option to use 110AC to heat? That might be one easy to miss whether it is working or not?
A couple items not mentioned might be something to check? There are often feeds to the converter for the ac that it needs to "make" the 12VDC to charge the batteries. Also is there an option to use 110AC for the frig? Those two are sometimes combined on one feed, so that might be something to consider if the frig has an option to run on AC?
One quick way to find if that breaker is for the converter is to listen for the converter which hums and then turn the breaker off? That converter is likely just behind the breaker/fuse panel, so if in a quiet place, you may hear it hum and go quite if you turn the breaker off.

Sorry, bit of guessing there as I do not know that trailer at all!

 

[bigbAZ]

There are 5 AC breakers. They are labelled AC, Microwave, GFCI, Main, and General. Every 110 outlet in the trailer has a sticker that sez "GFCI". So the mysterious "general" breaker is for something besides outlets. I guess?

There are usually 2 circuits for your receptacles in a 30 amp RV, bath, galley and outside plug on one (20 amp) and any others on another which could be 15 amps. (The microwave will not be part of the galley circuit)

 

[klook]

I thought the fridge was a dedicated circuit in modern campers, but it could be 12v. IF it is an on demand water heater, that will be 12v. That only leaves the converter and ?

 

[bigbAZ]

Yes could be the converter, or the converter and outlets. My converter was tagged onto another circuit. A simple test with breakers switched on or off would solve it instead of all this guessing though.

 

[ChrisRiley]

I thought the fridge was a dedicated circuit in modern campers, but it could be 12v. IF it is an on demand water heater, that will be 12v. That only leaves the converter and ?

Fridge in FLX is 12v and has its own 12v fuse. Water heater is Truma and has its own 12v fuse. There are two 12v fuses with cryptic labels. One sez "front" and the other "rear". More stuff the track down. I find it odd that the Winnebago page with wiring diagrams does not include the Micro Minnie.

 

[Morich]

I have missed a lot of things in life but I find no online info for most of the things we might want on trailers.
From the limited amount I see here on this forum, the trailer group appears to be a different management and do their own thing in their own way!
Support seems to be a pretty shaky effort?

 

[klook]

My guess that front and rear are either lights or powered vents. Or both.
I agree with Morich as I have spent the last 3 years working in various campers, mostly TT's and 5th wheels.
I have found many of them without any labeling at all in the distribution box. I have found them mislabeled. I have found 12v fuses as big as 30 amps hidden in walls, in wire looms, about anywhere. My brother and I got pretty good at "following the flow" to find where the problem was.

 

[DEWEY-WO]

We have a 2023 Micro Minnie 2108DS, and General/circuit 4, feeds the two ac outlets flanking the bed, the TV and the outlet directly below it.