Best Placement and Wiring Tips for TST 507 TPMS Repeater on Sunstar 29VE

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Members shared practical advice for installing a TST 507 TPMS repeater on a Sunstar 29VE, focusing on both optimal placement and wiring options. The consensus is to test repeater locations temporarily before making anything permanent, as signal strength can vary based on RV layout and metal obstructions. Several RVers recommend positioning the repeater midway between the toad and the dash receiver, such as under the coach near the rear or behind the bedroom TV, to maximize signal coverage... More...

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We have a 2019 Sunstar 29VE (same as the Vista 29VE). I want to add some sensors for our toad and thought it would be best to install the repeater that came with our TST 507 kit. As a novice electrical guy, I'm not sure where I should put the repeater and how to hook it into the electrical system. Our batteries are under the steps, which are near the front of the RV. I'm not sure if that would adequately pick up the sensor signals from the toad. There are also some electrics in the front passenger-side basement storage, but I'm not sure how to hook the repeater up there.

I'd appreciate any and all suggestions on placement as well as how to wire it into my electrical system. Thanks!
 
A bit tough to state specifics because it is not something we can see, when we speak of radio waves! So I fall back to general ideas and then f it is practical, I like to install the repeater with some form of temporary wiring setup to make sure the spot I have chosen works well.
When I gamble, I tend to may small bets until tested! But there are ways to increase the odds of being right if we use some ideas of how the signals might best work.
The sensors are not of the sort of antenna that sends a signal in a specific direction but I think of them as being more like a fireworks sparkler? Sparks fly out in all directions, up, down, left and right, even though we can see the radio waves! Things that stop them are metal as worst, with heavy or thick materials as less problem.
Planning says that the dash is often pretty open for a long space toward the back. Setting the head unit up a bit like the top of the dash can be better than down lower where the signal has to get around the chairs, etc.
If we can imagine a straight clear path from the head end to the repeater, that is often looking down the center aisle and often not hard to imagine a signal going there will little problem? If we look from the head end to the repeater, it may be easy enough to see a pretty clear path! Often it helps when we put them both a bit higher, as we have all the other things like stove, frig, water heater, down lower? No need to shoot through the booth seats or other if we can get it above them!
But it has to be both the signal from the repeater to the head but also we have to put the repeater where it gets the signal from ALL the tires and that can to harder as there are lots more metal getting from the toad wheels and that is not one we can change, so I tend to think putting the repeater farther back in the RV. The trip from repeater to front is often something we can arrange to be open far more than the toad to repeater.
That can be where I like to play some games to see what works before making it permanent. Can you see a way to do a practical job of temporary wiring for testing? It takes a combo of ease of wiring and also practical to have a sensor hanging out in the way if in the wrong spot!
Suggestions are my "first guess" and I actually do not have major trouble getting to to work. The TST line is one I have used in several different RV and not been a major problem. Does that mean they are good or have I been lucky???
Check if this first guess seems to have the more open path, generally more equal for getting signals from car to repeater as from rear wheels to repeater.
I think I spot a couple 12 v ports that might be handy to put a plug on the repeater wiring for testing a location? Or is there a semi-handy point to get power to it? It doesn't need much and there charge ports might be a handy one to look at as they seem to let you get it higher and also that might help get it out of the way?
Part of the thought it that they are less likely to be used for charging the cell phones, etc. while driving and they might already be set with fuses, etc. to be nice if you could just tap into them??
The repeater is really low power user and even then these will be connected to the engine alternator as you drive, so no problem drawing down batteries.

Blue for power source and red as possible locations for repeater?
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This might put the repeater much closer to the toad which is automatically further but also put it somewhat near the rear wheels which tend to be in a more "metal cluttered" spot. If you can almost see an open shot back to front, this might be one I would try as it tends to favor the harder things to get from wheels to repeater!
A location along the back wall might be good but getting power may be harder?

WARNING!
Sometimes my theory is totally defeated by real life, so I have to test before trusting!
Wish you luck and that seems to be good in lots of things!
 
Thanks for the detailed reply. Agreed that it would be best to try out the repeater in a location before permanently mounting it.

Looking at the schematics, I believe the outlets by the bed in back are just 110. I’m not near the RV now so I can’t confirm. Not sure of the location of the blue power source near the middle of the rig that you identified. There is a tv mounted on the wall where separating the dinette from the shower. Would the spot you identified be behind the tv? There is a 12v connector (cigarette lighter for us old folks) next to the dinette. Maybe that’s the spot.

Assuming I find a 12v connector, how do I connect the repeater to it? The repeater has two wires. Is there a part I can buy to connect it? Alternatively, can I get an adapter to go from 110 to 12v? There is a 110 plug in the back, on the other side, that the bedroom tv plugs into.

Thanks again.
 
There are two builds of the year RV, so I chose one at random so some small points may differ.
I thought first of the cigarette lighter outlets as they are 12volt already, so direct wiring without need for any type power supply (wall -wart?) !
But if 110 outlet is handy most any 12VDc plugin supply will be enough to power this.
I collect junk like that, so you might have stuck one back in a drawer somewhere.
When my kids get my stuff, they need a trailer!
Those outlets can be done either way. You can buy the plug to attach to the two wires of the repeater and just plug in to one of the existing 12Volt outlets or go deeper and splice the repeater wires to the two outlet wires in behind.
One wire on the outlet will go to the metal outer rim of the socket and that is ground while another goes to a point down in the center which is battery. That makes the battery less prone to getting contact while you move around it.
On old cars with metal dash, it was a handy place to get ground just by mounting the plug in the metal dash! It messed up a lot of service guys when they couldn't use a magnet on the dash to hold the service orders! Danged new fangled plastic!

A small point to consider for location?
If you get a place where it is possible to just plug/unplug the repeater, it may not need much work on mounting/wiring.
We only use the TPMS when we drive, so on one, it fit to just lay the repeater on the dinette seat and plug into a 12VDc port. We did that as part of folding up to travel and then when we arrived we stuck it back in a drawer to get it out of the way.
The electronics on the sensors and parts is hard to imagine how long things like the sensor battery may last as they often do not use battery except for a few milli-seconds to send a message.
Way too much to fully understand but as I understand it, the head unit sends polling
requests to all the sensors. that unit is plugged to power, but the sensors don't do anything until they have a change to report on temp or pressure!
So much of the time, they set there asleep and then if something changes, they jump up for long enough to pass the message and go back to sleep!
These are random numbers I use for example but if the signal is sent at 200 megabits per second, you can send a tub full of info in a tenth of a second!
That means the sensor batteries, mostly just set there waiting for something to report and they may only wake up for a milli-second!
The way that works when you break camp and turn the TPMS on again, there will be a rush of activity as the head sends signals to connect with each tire. Your unit likely has a drawing of where each sensor is located. As they begin to check in with the head, it likely lights up at that tire?
For the first time in history, you can set and watch gizmos get the act together and you will see far less need to worry about tire pressure being exact as it may be different on the sunny side and when you change directions of travel!
Kind of like leading a bunch of toddlers? It is not possible to keep them in line but what we learn to watch is when one gets way too far off!

I think you will learn to love it but, like toddlers, give it some time to learn what to expect!
 
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I found a cigarette lighter plug with a 2 wire connection on eBay and ordered it. Once I connect the repeater to the plug, I'll test the signal strength. Hopefully I can get a decent signal.
Thanks!
 
Spooky to work on things that we can't see nor feel but take a look around and see how it works out. I have never put TPMS on my tow car but I do really like what it does for me and feel it really worth the effort!
Sometimes they work really well most anywhere and other times it takes a closer look. Wish you well!
 
I mounted our repeater underneath the coach about halfway between the farthest sensor on the toad and the receiver on the dash. I powered it by tapping into the charge line that runs to the round seven hitch plug. This 12vdc line is fed by a relay and will only power on the repeater when the coach engine is running. With our 32’ coach, I’ve found that the sensors work just fine without the repeater powered up when sitting parked, but I like having the repeater while driving.
 
I mounted mine inside the plumbing wall behind the shower valve access and ran the wire down and to a side marker light. Since my rig has DRLs which uses all the lights whenever the engine is running, the repeater has power whenever the engine is running. I don't have a Sunstar but this is just to give you an idea if you have DRLs that use the tail and side marker lamps as well, that you can take power from one of the lights.
 
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We have an Adventurer 29B, same layout as yours. I mounted the repeater to a frame member near the left rear tail light and wired it to that light. Works fine with the sensors on our toad.
 

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