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10-13-2011, 08:32 AM
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Winnebago Watcher
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What RPM are you running when pulling a substancial grade or passing the semi's? Do you know the red line limit?
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10-13-2011, 10:15 AM
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#42
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miataman
What RPM are you running when pulling a substancial grade or passing the semi's? Do you know the red line limit?
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The red line (rev limiter) is set to engage at 5350 rpm with transmission in gear. When in neutral it will engage around 2000 rpm.
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10-13-2011, 01:43 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Fall City, WA
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Originally Posted by az bound
Here we go. This should be very interesting. My daddy can beat up your daddy
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I'm curious, you are on a Winnebago forum, posting in a Ford V10 thread. You apparently have neither, according to your signature. You seem quite intent on proving some point regarding what a better choice the V10 is versus a diesel, and yet you condemn others for getting "off topic". My understanding of these forums is that they are intended offer a medium where folks can share a thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among fellow RV enthusiasts.
It's OK to allow others to have differing choices. You're confident in your choice, I'm confident in mine.
The Ford V10 seems to be a very popular RV engine. I'm happy so many folks are experiencing good service from theirs. If we were to look at a small RV, I would certainly consider the V10.
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10-13-2011, 02:51 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
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Been rving for over 40 years and have owned 300 Cummins, 6.8 ford and now GM 8.1. I do not believe I have touted one over the other, mearly pointed out that the V10 is very capable of doing the job it was designed to do, and will outpull the 300 Cummins.
I did not condemn anyone for anything. I did ask that we try to stay on topic.
Signatures do not tell life stories.
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10-13-2011, 03:15 PM
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#45
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az bound
mearly pointed out that the V10 is very capable of doing the job it was designed to do, and will outpull the 300 Cummins.
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Coaches of equal weight, the Cummins has superior torque, no contest.
0-60 V-10 wins, on serious long hills Cummins wins.
J
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10-13-2011, 04:29 PM
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When those blessed V10 triton first hit the market I stoped at a They told me they had a backlog Of 26 Motorhomes they need to replace the engines in. Because they were bad... Now tell me again how great the V10 is; Also it seems we are on the Winnebago site , As was stated in a proir post, What is ford EXC> doing here; Talking about staying on the subject;; I have Owned The Triton ; someone asked in I would own another. Heck No; I spent $25,000 more and got a Real engine A diesel;;
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10-13-2011, 04:50 PM
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#47
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miataman
What RPM are you running when pulling a substancial grade or passing the semi's? Do you know the red line limit?
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Its been a while since I had the V10 but I can tell you that it reaches its peak torque of 425 ft. lbs. @ 3250 rpm and peak 362 hp @ 4750 rpm. Dropping below 3200 rpm I would not advise as the torque drops off very fast.
Anywhere from 3200 to 5000 rpm is acceptable.
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10-13-2011, 05:21 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Since I didn't have another $25,000 to get a "real engine a diesel", I got a V-10 in a used MH. So far it has served me well.
My gasser has the Banks system on it and I'm sure it helps, it was on when I bought it so I can't compare before and after. It is a first year V-10 so it is a 2-valve 275HP, wish I had the 365HP, maybe on my next MH.
But at 38' and towing a toad on a dolly, I don't win any races. And pulling the long grades on the left half of the country, I am in the slow lane doing about 35 mph in 2nd gear at about 3500rpm. I can wind it out further in 2nd, but keep it below 4000rpm because I have all day to get to the top. Heating is never a problem, Scan Gauge II always reads 206deg or less, even at the top on a hot day.
Although my instant mileage readout has dropped to a low of 2.4MPG on a steep pull, I get 9999MPG going down the other side.
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10-13-2011, 06:13 PM
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#49
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miataman
What RPM are you running when pulling a substancial grade or passing the semi's? Do you know the red line limit?
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I am assuming you have the 3 valve 362 hp as opposed to the 2 valve 275 hp version.
The three valve became available as an option after 2005
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10-16-2011, 06:01 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Surprise Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bachler
When those blessed V10 triton first hit the market I stoped at a They told me they had a backlog Of 26 Motorhomes they need to replace the engines in. Because they were bad... Now tell me again how great the V10 is; Also it seems we are on the Winnebago site , As was stated in a proir post, What is ford EXC> doing here; Talking about staying on the subject;; I have Owned The Triton ; someone asked in I would own another. Heck No; I spent $25,000 more and got a Real engine A diesel;;
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I had to think about how to answer this for a while. To begin I will apologise, for you, to everyone for the rudness that was exhibited.
Anyone can post in any forum on any subject, and this one is no exception.
Whether it is realized or not there are hundreds of Winnebagos on Ford chassis.
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10-16-2011, 01:54 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Fall City, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by az bound
I had to think about how to answer this for a while. To begin I will apologise, for you, to everyone for the rudness that was exhibited.
Anyone can post in any forum on any subject, and this one is no exception.
Whether it is realized or not there are hundreds of Winnebagos on Ford chassis.
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OK, we all get it; you had your feelings hurt and want everyone to know. How does the above post contribute to the original topic discussed?
Knowledge, experience, help: YES, please.
Otherwise we might as well be on rvdotnet...
I submit we should turn this around and get back to sharing in a positive manner.
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10-16-2011, 03:01 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Parker, CO
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the V10 is very capable of doing the job it was designed to do, and will outpull the 300 Cummins.
I'd not advise you to bet the ranch on that, you'd be homeless. Out here in the Rockies the 300 Cummins on a Bounder pulling a 24' enclosed loaded trailer will, by far, outpull my 8.1, and in 35,000 miles of mountain driving, I've never been passed by any CL A gasser when climbing the big ones. We all just putz up about 30-35 MPH.
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10-16-2011, 05:03 PM
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How do you get By ; with posting the truth. Every time I try to do it , It seems I insult Some body . But I Want part of the bet to. However I'll Put my money On the 300/330 cat Rather then The Powerfull V10. Give them all a 35000.lb load and let them pull;;
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10-16-2011, 06:01 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Mar 2009
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When it comes to engine problems with the V-10... I have been known to mention one of the problems with the Trition V-10, and conclude by saying the Chevy 8.1L Vortec did not have that problem.... it had others. And I've heard of Cummins, and other diesels which had issues as well.. In short, every engine maker occasionally messes up. NO exceptions.
The Triton V-10, is a match for the 8.1L Vortec when it comes to peak torque..
However I don't think I've even seen my engine hit 5,000, 4,000 yes, but not five.
It peaks at a much lower speed.
I did have to pass a couple of semis though.. More than enough power to do it.
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10-17-2011, 08:37 AM
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The post is related to the pulling Power of the V10;; We have traveled Maney caravens were there were V10. In various Coaches; In the lighter coaches they were fine. The larger coach With the V10, would take a bit longer/slower up a long grade; Weight relation to engine size is a large factor;;. The truth be said in there cataglory they are the best; At this time lets find another gas engine; OOPS ; I post from my experiance. I have no bone to pick with anyone, Jack Nickelson, Said it best once,, ( you can't handle the truth ) . In no way do want to belittle/downgrade any one ;; Just the facts ; Life is good;
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10-17-2011, 06:15 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Let's face it, diesels are probably better in a MH, but you get what you pay for, and they cost more.
Don't get me wrong, gassers are great (I have one) and affordable, but really, wouldn't many (NOT ALL) of us have a DP if we could afford it, I would.
Luckily for me, and my 275hp V-10, many of the long grades in the West are in the mountains, so as I'm slowly working my way to the top I can enjoy the beautiful scenery. No problem.
Try to remember, it's not a diesel vs gas contest. Apples & oranges...blah blah blah.
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10-17-2011, 06:25 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2011
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I was only intending to say for a gas powered class C it is better performing than I thought, but yeah if I could really afford a DP I would get one in a heartbeat, but I am happy with the Impulse silver, Maggie (that's her name) does just fine.
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10-17-2011, 06:26 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Shadow Hills,CA 91040
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sequim Guy
Let's face it, diesels are probably better in a MH, but you get what you pay for, and they cost more.
Don't get me wrong, gassers are great (I have one) and affordable, but really, wouldn't many (NOT ALL) of us have a DP if we could afford it, I would.
Luckily for me, and my 275hp V-10, many of the long grades in the West are in the mountains, so as I'm slowly working my way to the top I can enjoy the beautiful scenery. No problem.
Try to remember, it's not a diesel vs gas contest. Apples & oranges...blah blah blah.
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WHO CARES, If you enjoy your Motorhome that all that matters. It makes no differance if its 18 feet or 45 feet, if its your and it makes you happy, thats all that counts. After all, we all have beautiful wives.
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10-17-2011, 06:31 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chula Vista, Mexifornia
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10-17-2011, 06:53 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck 1935
WHO CARES, If you enjoy your Motorhome that all that matters. It makes no differance if its 18 feet or 45 feet, if its your and it makes you happy, thats all that counts. After all, we all have beautiful wives.
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Well said, I love my second wife, and the first one too. my second wife and I have a date at the Pomona RV show this weekend, cant wait.
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