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Old 11-18-2022, 04:38 PM   #1
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2021 View Empty Weight From Factory

Is there any way to get a document ow the empty weight of my View when it left the factory.

Yes I know I can weigh it but I really don't want to have to empty and reload it.
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Old 11-18-2022, 04:53 PM   #2
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The sticker with your cargo carrying capacity should approximate the weight from the factory. I believe they include the weight of a full take of gas, but otherwise subtract the as built weight from the capacity of the chassis. If you have a 24K chassis with 3,000 pounds of cargo carrying capacity, your as built weight should be 21,000 pounds, including the full tank of gas. If Iím wrong, Iím sure one of our members will set the record straight.
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Old 11-18-2022, 07:06 PM   #3
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IMO, that is perhaps the most useless information on the mfgrs. information list, but it is there. It does not include dealer options or aftermarket accessories.
macnut is right.
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Old 11-19-2022, 08:24 AM   #4
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I don't know about the View or newer MHs in general, but, if I recall correctly, this information can often be found on a piece of paper mounted inside a closet or similar location. Mine is pretty much unreadable since they screwed the closet rod end support board on top of it.

I agree that the info is pretty useless. Here are some definitions of the various vehicle weights:

https://familyrvusa.com/dry-weight-g...-does-it-mean/
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:34 AM   #5
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My door sticker only gives GVWR and mfg and dealer websites only give a range of curb weights based on View model and options. Unlike my class A's of the past there are no stickers inside with empty weight etc.

Don't want the weight for operational purposes I can easily weigh it fully loaded to check for axle weights, 4 corner weights, legality and tire pressure.

My problem is:
$$*&^^&%R South Dakota DMV is demanding an empty/curb weight to license and title the RV and I am currently traveling fully loaded on a temp plate.

The DMV will accept a Cat Scale weight, but I REALLY don't feel like unloading all my stuff next to a Cat Scale at a truck stop.

Right now my only light at the end of the tunnel is NIRVC is looking through their inventory to see if they can find my model View and weigh it.

Otherwise, I've exhausted all the options I can think of and will end up spreading my belongings at a local truck stop.

Don't understand why the %#$&^ DMV won't accept the GVWR on the door sticker The CCC on these small class C's on Mercedes chassis is miniscule so the difference between actual Curb weight and GVWR is only a few hundred pounds.

Thanks for all the input.
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Old 11-19-2022, 10:46 AM   #6
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Call Winnebago and ask for an email confirmation if you need documentation.
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Old 11-19-2022, 02:12 PM   #7
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I think I found what you seek: https://www.lichtsinn.com/blog/winne...vwr-gcwr-more/
Subtract OCCC from GVWR to obtain UVW.
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Old 11-19-2022, 03:10 PM   #8
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Thanks Ray
I actually copied that and sent to DMV but no Joy tried to explain these all have different empty weights given add Ons, layouts, and accessories. Like talking to a wall.
I don't understand for what purpose they need an exact weight. It doesn't affect the taxes and fees I pay. In any event I am emptying the RV into an RV neighbors' truck and trailer and tomorrow get a Cat scale weight.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:12 AM   #9
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Please post your results. It would be great info.
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Old 11-20-2022, 09:46 AM   #10
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Please post your results. It would be great info.
The link in Ray's post above has the best, and as far as I can tell, the only info on curb weight for these units.

Bear in mind when I post my actual weight it will be for a 24D with the theater seating option and several mods/add on's that I and the 1st owner added.
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Old 11-21-2022, 11:07 AM   #11
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Winnebago 24D 2021
GVWR 11,030#
Max empty weight (according to Lichtsinn) 9,965#
FGAWR 4,410#
RGAWR 7,720#

Actual CAT Scale Weights
RV empty of all belongings, stuff, etc.
Waste
Gray, Black, and fresh water tanks empty
Propane tank (12 gal/50#)full
Fuel tank full

RV
had original lead acid batteries removed and replaced with Lithium est-80#
2 additional Solar panels on roof est+50#
In motion satellite est??#
Hellwig sway bar est + 30#
Supersprings est 50#


Front Axle 3,360#
Rear Axle 6,680#

Total 10,140#

This is 175# over Lichtsinn's estimate, close enough for government work.

Besides not understanding why the DMV needs to know empty weight I am confused by the fact that the GVWR is less than the sum of the Gross Axle weight ratings by 1,100#.
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Old 11-21-2022, 11:25 AM   #12
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Besides not understanding why the DMV needs to know empty weight I am confused by the fact that the GVWR is less than the sum of the Gross Axle weight ratings by 1,100#.
It's like that on all 1 ton truck chassis, which is what the Sprinter is. For example my SRW F-350 has a front axle rating of 5,200 lbs and rear of 6,830 lbs which is 12,030 lbs but the max GVWR is 9,900 lbs.
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Old 11-21-2022, 12:22 PM   #13
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It's like that on all 1 ton truck chassis, which is what the Sprinter is. For example my SRW F-350 has a front axle rating of 5,200 lbs and rear of 6,830 lbs which is 12,030 lbs but the max GVWR is 9,900 lbs.
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I guess my real curiosity is why.
My understanding is that GAWR is determined by the weakest link of the axle itself, braking performance, or suspension.
As such I would expect GVWR should be the sum of the GAWRs or at least close to it.

I am guessing in some loading scenarios you could overload one axle or the other and still be within the sum of the GAWRs but to decrease the GVWR by over 1000# seems a bit of overkill.

In any event GVWR is GVWR. Can't change it and unwise to exceed it.
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I read an explanation on this awhile back, you will see busses and Class A motorhomes with axle ratings that total their GFWR because they are built that way, but a truck or van chassis is built by the factory then sent out for various purposes which are not always known by the manufacturer. Also like you said there is the suspension, brakes, engine, drive train, frame and tires to consider.

edit: here's a much better explanation than I can offer: https://www.ntea.com/NTEA/NTEA/Membe...ghtRating.aspx
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I read an explanation on this awhile back, you will see busses and Class A motorhomes with axle ratings that total their GFWR because they are built that way, but a truck or van chassis is built by the factory then sent out for various purposes which are not always known by the manufacturer. Also like you said there is the suspension, brakes, engine, drive train, frame and tires to consider.

edit: here's a much better explanation than I can offer: https://www.ntea.com/NTEA/NTEA/Membe...ghtRating.aspx
Reference was great best explanation I've read.
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I know how you feel. I also was requested by SD DMV the factory weight but luckily I have a used Pleasure Way that sent me the certificate of weight. Very responsive. Why not contact Winnebago?
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Old 11-24-2022, 06:58 AM   #17
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The unladen weight is on my title when I bought it new. Mine was 9700 lbs on a loaded 22D with an LP generator and lithium batteries, full body paint. Should be close to yours. Diesel generator adds about 50 lbs, AGM batteries adds 60 lbs. Regular paint subtract 20 lbs.
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Is there any way to get a document ow the empty weight of my View when it left the factory.

Yes I know I can weigh it but I really don't want to have to empty and reload it.
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Old 11-24-2022, 10:02 AM   #18
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Why not contact Winnebago?
That was step one and was an exercise in futility.
They are as helpful as the federal government.
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Been there done that...

When I registered all of my vehicles (class a diesel mh, jeep, tacoma) I had to send in all the info on all the vehicles as well to the sd dmv. I emailed winnebago and they sent me the factory build weight in a day or two. It doesnt really accomplish anything to wonder why they need the info, if you want to register in sd you need to provide what they want. Just my 2 cents...
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