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Old 09-15-2020, 03:14 PM   #61
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Old 09-15-2020, 03:40 PM   #62
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My dealer is less than 3 miles away ! i WILL never GO BACK TO THIS CLOWN ! i would rather burn mine than go back to FLAGG RV where we bought it ! I brought mine to another dealer 5 hrs away ! Lets see how this goes ! If it doesn't work out we WILL be claiming LEMON LAW !
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I just ordered the Navion 24D last week.
I’m wondering if I made a mistake.
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Rethinking his decision.
Ed, when thinking about this, the decision is not will it be a mistake to buy a Winnebago, but will it be a mistake to purchase any RV. As has been pointed out previously, ANY RV from any manufacturer can be trouble free, plagued with problems or anywhere in between.

If you want an RV then you are all set. If you don’t want any problems then you don’t want an RV.

You can help make things go well by taking the time to learn about all the systems and then spending many hours (6+ hrs) going over every system and every inch of the RV you’re getting with the dealer prep person BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.

Anything less and you will be short changing yourself right from the start.
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Old 09-15-2020, 04:10 PM   #64
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My dealer is less than 3 miles away ! i WILL never GO BACK TO THIS CLOWN ! i would rather burn mine than go back to FLAGG RV where we bought it ! I brought mine to another dealer 5 hrs away ! Lets see how this goes ! If it doesn't work out we WILL be claiming LEMON LAW !
Good luck with the new dealer. Most of us are much happier never going to any dealer for service. We either fix it ourselves or find a trustworthy independent repair person/shop.

And, just so you know... Lemon Laws apply to automobiles not RVs.
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Old 09-15-2020, 05:48 PM   #65
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I am just trying to get some need warranty work done . Other wise I do ALL my service and repair work. Retired class 8 truck mechanic .
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That’s the point Tom, warranty work completed by the dealer will still drive you crazy. Is it that important?
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Old 09-16-2020, 04:18 AM   #67
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It is ! I have had electrical issues and water leak issues from the very first day ! In particular the inverter has been replaced due to a in the wall water leak from the shower valve , and am having issues with the replacement one again. It's big money things like this is why it goes back to the dealer ! With what we have invested in this coach why should I FORK out the money ! Let Winnebago pay for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Good luck with the new dealer. Most of us are much happier never going to any dealer for service. We either fix it ourselves or find a trustworthy independent repair person/shop.

And, just so you know... Lemon Laws apply to automobiles not RVs.
In some states the lemon law could applied but Creativepart is correct on Rhode Island from what I can see "The Rhode Island lemon law covers any “motor vehicle”, defined as an automobile, truck, motorcycle, or van with a registered gross vehicle weight of less than 10,000 pounds. ... The lemon law covers used vehicles but does not cover motorized campers." IMHO "Motorized Camper" to me means Motorhome. Also if I recall any lemon law requires you to go back multiple times to the same dealer for the same repairs in order to claim even a car a "lemon". Like many have said you have to either be rich, handy or both or even crazy to own a MH or other expensive RVs. Some are lucky have very few problems, others fix there's while still others push the dealer. I've pushed the dealers over the few years on my Motorhome's major issues and I fixed the easy things myself. I felt I was frustrated though successful on those fronts. The forum offers a lot of experience and great help as well as advice but in the end only you can decide the path you chose..
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It is ! I have had electrical issues and water leak issues from the very first day ! With what we have invested in this coach why should I FORK out the money ! Let Winnebago pay for it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please understand, I’m not trying to make you angry. You’ve got to handle things the way you see fit. Honest, I was hoping to offer a suggestion that would provide less frustration.

I truly hope your new dealer takes care of everything and gets you back on the road as quickly as possible.
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If you want an RV then you are all set. If you don’t want any problems then you don’t want an RV.
So true.

I've had 4. They are all plagued with shoddy design and amateurish, sloppy construction in some way or another.

It's a collection of third party, lowest bidder hardware sub-systems, taped and stapled and screwed together and wrapped in silk and tied with a bow. They are all essentially designed to get a "yes" from the wife, for spending a huge gob of money.

When you see the DIY RVs that guys build, they are nothing like the commercial RV. Guys choose top-of-line components, over do the construction strength, and eliminate most of the non-essential decor.
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Just to be clear ! This is my 6th rv and 2nd pusher ! I have had much better built RV's much older than this ! I am NO rookie !
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Just to be clear ! This is my 6th rv and 2nd pusher ! I have had much better built RV's much older than this ! I am NO rookie !
Got it Tom. Again, really hoping for a great outcome with your new dealer repair.
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:32 PM   #73
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! If it doesn't work out we WILL be claiming LEMON LAW !
Is there a Lemon Law for RVs where you are? I have never heard of one in Arizona.
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Ok, not that it will impact me since I don't live in Rhode Island but are you saying you bought the Rig in RI? and if so if you have any proof that they have a lemon law for Motorhomes, when everything I've found on the DMV site of which I previously quoted, and now a buddy that lives there who owned a Class A's for many years say that they don't have one. Now my buddy would like me to send the info to him since he's thinking of buying another one soon and is concerned about quality with everything going on. I told him my only guess is you bought it in another state that might have it. I'm just trying to help him but he sent me this site for the Attorney General's Office site with the same information I had found earlier. I hope there is protection for those that have so much problems. I feel the pain with my last 2018 FR Georgetown in the shop the first year more than it was out. In fact the 3 yrs. I owned it it spent probably better than 50% in the shop or down because of repetitive faults with the slides and AC units. My Dealer and FR after hearing me pushing it up the ranks in both the Dealership and FR places would work on it even after the warranty period expired. Finally got everything squared away and decided to move up to a DP but I couldn't let anyone else inherit my issues so I wanted to get them fixed once and for all. Moved to Florida and FR Director set me up at a private shop and we all conversed on the issues and they were fixed, working like a charm and no cost to me, just a few years off my life with the frustration and stress every time we took it out. Anyway good Luck.
And here's the link he sent me. HTTPS://www.ri.gov/search/result.php?q=lemon%20law
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It appears I have been misinformed . R.I. lemon law does not cover motorhomes
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It appears I have been misinformed . R.I. lemon law does not cover motorhomes
Sorry but don't give up maybe this other dealerships service is better than you previous one. Like I said keep pushing it up the management ranks not just at the dealership but at the manufacturer. Make it more patable for them, by showing them you'll fix the annoying little things but the larger items you need them to fix them. Though this is very frustrating and I wanted to scream at the top of my lungs at them IMHO for them too listen just be stern, have the facts, read as much at the forum and online so your educated on these issues and keep pressing onward. I bugged them continually and it did pay off. You can a wide variety of forums fir every manufacturer of RVs out there and you'll find lots of complaints but as in this thread you'll get a variety of opinions on how they handled it, some fix them all, some of them less and some push the dealer. There's also many that have very few issues, call it luck or whatever. Keep pushing and IMHO the more you know the better off you are. Thanks
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