Fuel prices

[pobstlmo]

Wow still just one page.

My limit, well that depends, I would pay $100/gal if that was the current cost but then food would also be that much (inflation) so it’s relative.

Currently if gas all of a sudden jumped to $10/gal
I would probably wait to see if it went down or if everything else went up.

I wonder if I’ll live long enough to see an electric MH that runs on Solar.

[orangeminnie]

The prices are VERY regional and location-sensitive, now. In rural Calif., we saw REGULAR gas as high as 5.99/gal, last week, and had to pay it since we were running on fumes. We're scouring Gas Buddy, using discounts whenever we can, and considering cutting back on longer trips, unless we'll be out for weeks at a time (or longer). Price gouging for gas, fast food, and groceries in rural areas, seems to have skyrocketed.

[armullis59]

When I bought my first class a coach, gas was under $2 a gallon. Now, it is $3.50 and probably going over $4 by summer....or so we are told! So Yes, it makes me seriously consider the cost of moving the coach. We try to use it close to home, say under 1 hour drive from storage. We currently don't have any long trips planned.

[spierce617]

Have many trips planned for the summer. I guess we will see how many pan out with the price of gas now.

[71_340]

How many of you remember 2007? Diesel was almost at $5.00 and we all survived and made way less money than we do now. Prices will eventually come back down. We will not make any concessions and will enjoy RVing.

Look at bright side, might be easier to find RV park vacancies.

[rk911]

Originally Posted by T00lman

Let me ask a different question- When you are no longer able to travel, do you think you would rather have spent that money on stuff or on traveling to places you always wanted to see?

ah, that's a different story. we may be at the end of our RV adventure this year mostly due to my wife's mobility issues. if we hang it up we will have had 35-seasons under our belt and thousands of miles visiting all lower-48 states and all Canadian provinces from Ontario west. wouldn't trade a minute of it. dollars well, very well, spent.

[Sparky19053]

Originally Posted by deckape

All I have is time and money ,and I'm running out of time . We will still go , that's why I got the coach .

I have to agree with this comment. Worked a long time to reach this point in our lives. Not going to let $5 fuel stop us now. I might drive a bit slower to economize on the MPG but your only going to be this age once so enjoy it.

[Marine359]

Traveling westbound through Arizona, gasoline prices jumped 40 cents overnight ostensibly due to the crisis in Eastern Europe. Of course retailers using Ukraine’s misfortune to immediately line their pockets, because the landed cost of the fuel they’re selling has not risen hardly at all. Maybe in a few days it would be justifiable. Anyway, forgive my rant, because like others, we’re at the age when $8.00/gal wouldn’t stop us from rving.

[Wayne M]

I'm just going to slow down and spend more time at one place to let retirement income catch up.

When you consider traveling at a pace of 4 or 6 days to point A, B, C, D at about 100 gallons a day, would be $1600 at $4 a gallon. That same travel at 1 week apart intervals is still $1600 but my retirement pension will have caught up with me in a months time and I'm ready to travel the same way again. Make sense?

Or even stay longer. We have reservations in Shipshewana, In for the month of August and 1 week in September. Bring it on.

[Eagle5]

Originally Posted by rk911

ah, that's a different story. we may be at the end of our RV adventure this year mostly due to my wife's mobility issues. if we hang it up we will have had 35-seasons under our belt and thousands of miles visiting all lower-48 states and all Canadian provinces from Ontario west. wouldn't trade a minute of it. dollars well, very well, spent.

Hi Rich,
Visiting all lower-48 states sounds wonderful. What are the best three states to visit?
Thanks, Eagle5
RV State Sticker Travel Map

[71_340]

Originally Posted by Marine359

Traveling westbound through Arizona, gasoline prices jumped 40 cents overnight ostensibly due to the crisis in Eastern Europe. Of course retailers using Ukraine’s misfortune to immediately line their pockets, because the landed cost of the fuel they’re selling has not risen hardly at all. Maybe in a few days it would be justifiable. Anyway, forgive my rant, because like others, we’re at the age when $8.00/gal wouldn’t stop us from rving.

I really like to know how the Ukraine crisis can affect our fuel prices. We do not import crude oil, fuel, or natural gas from the Ukraine or Russia.

[MadMaxWinny]

The same way a standing President can claim credit for low fuel prices (or anything else they had nothing to do with, for that matter). OPEC marches to the tune of their own drummer, largely without external influence.

[creativepart]

Originally Posted by 71_340

I really like to know how the Ukraine crisis can affect our fuel prices. We do not import crude oil, fuel, or natural gas from the Ukraine or Russia.

You may have forgotten... the US is part of a world market for oil and for gas. We didn't used to be that way, but then it was 1937.

Oil isn't priced for sale in Kentucky or Kansas, it's priced to sell in markets around the globe that are far more than willing to pay a premium price for a barrel of oil than we are. And, lucky for US oil producers they get to extract oil at US costs and then sell it at a World price. Yeeha!

Does that answer your question?

[Marine359]

Great post CreativePart!

[71_340]

Originally Posted by creativepart

You may have forgotten... the US is part of a world market for oil and for gas. We didn't used to be that way, but then it was 1937.

Oil isn't priced for sale in Kentucky or Kansas, it's priced to sell in markets around the globe that are far more than willing to pay a premium price for a barrel of oil than we are. And, lucky for US oil producers they get to extract oil at US costs and then sell it at a World price. Yeeha!

Does that answer your question?

Well said and you are absolutely correct. I forgot to put on my global economy hat.

[Wayne M]

According to the news and what I just read from searching;

"In 2021, the U.S. imported an average of 209,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil and 500,000 bpd of other petroleum products from Russia."

Yes, it will affect the prices at the pump.

However, the U.S. has around 450 Trillion Cubic Feet of natural gas reserves, and around 39 million barrels of crude oil reserves.

The problem is getting them because of "environmental group" and "environmental legislature" concerns..

The price at the pump is going to go up.

[BeauxZeaux]

Well Said!! Hear! Hear!

[creativepart]

At this point both the EU and the US have not banned gas and oil sales from Russia. I believe that Canada has done so. I have read from the Wall Street Journal that this amounts to $700 million a day in hard currency reserves paid to Russia. At least that was the number before the actual start of the invasion.

If the US and the EU were to halt buying Russian oil and gas the price would certainly jump instantly worldwide. By how much? Double or triple... or more?

[creativepart]

Originally Posted by Wayne M

The problem is getting them because of "environmental group" and "environmental legislature" concerns.

Yes, there are laws governing the amount of ground water pollution and air pollution that oil company drilling, pumping and refining are permitted to emit. But I think we can all agree that clean water and clean air are equally vital concerns.

[Wayne M]

I never said otherwise. Eventually it may be possible to extract oil without disturbing the ecosystem. Until then, we pay the current price, or we stop traveling.