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Old 04-06-2005, 03:45 AM   #1
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I have a 2005 Itasca Sunrise - when I hook up the hose to flush out the black water tank - the water does not flow into the tank. Is anyone aware of a shut off valve somewhere that would need to be opened?

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Old 04-06-2005, 03:45 AM   #2
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I have a 2005 Itasca Sunrise - when I hook up the hose to flush out the black water tank - the water does not flow into the tank. Is anyone aware of a shut off valve somewhere that would need to be opened?

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Old 04-06-2005, 04:09 AM   #3
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Sorry on the first post I misread what you asked! I had an 2000 model and I do not think there is any sut off. the line goes into the back of the tank and might ne kinked, but If you hear the water running in the hose it has to be going to the black or grey water tank, or into a compartment. I got one of those 6" clear extensions so you can see what comes out. When I hook up the rinse hose a lot of times no water can be seen running through because there is a blockage holding it back in the black tank, most of the time it will break through with persistance but if not you might have to use other methods sugested on this site for breaking up clogs (lots of ice cubes, water softner, additonal tank flush, etc.). I also when avaliable have the wife fill the toilet three of four times extra full and let it go while I view the clear extension and always extra comes out.
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Old 04-06-2005, 04:41 AM   #4
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Bob,

The black tank flushing systems will have a check valve on the input fitting. The check valve is usually the same time that would be on your city water hookup. You might be familiar with them that the hose fitting has a washer with attached screen inside. If you remove that screen and washer, you'll see a small plastic button connected to the spring loaded disc that is the check valve. Back pressure of water holds the valve closed to prevent back flow.

I suspect the check valve is stuck closed. Try removing the screen and pressing the small button. I think then after you hook up the hose again, it will work.

Just a caution, those check valves on the city water inlet can be damaged if they are pressed with water pressure against them. Typically, you should always release water pressure by opening hot and cold faucets before pushing the check valve button. In this case, there should not be any back pressure since it's only connected to the flushing system.

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Old 04-06-2005, 05:39 AM   #5
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Bob,

I seem to remember a discussion about this a year or so ago. The advice was to open the faucet slowly and not hit that check valve a sudden pressure. Good results were reported with that technique.
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Old 04-12-2008, 04:12 PM   #6
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I have no back flow valve at the inlet of my flush inlet. It use to work just fine. Now when you hook up to water pressure, water will not flow back to the tank. When you remove the hose water pressure comes back out. A sure sign of a blockage somewhere. I can not see in far enough to where the line enters the tank. Has any one tried low pressure air to releas a possible blockage? If so, what is maximum pressure you would try?
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:24 PM   #7
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I would check the vacume breaker, on mine it is located under the bathroom sink.
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Old 04-14-2008, 02:37 AM   #8
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bdaball, to me thats a sure sign that your check valve is stuck. Follow Joe-K instructions and it should work. Good Miles
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Old 04-14-2008, 07:29 AM   #9
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DancinCampers:
I would check the vacume breaker, on mine it is located under the bathroom sink. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't believe black tanks have vacuum breakers. Mine has a 2-3" vent pipe directly up to the roof. The gray tank joins into it on a "Y" fitting.

The vacuum breaker under the bathroom sink is to keep the sink's "P" trap from being sucked dry when dumping. The shower drain does not have a separate vac. breaker since the sink breaker will keep it from draining.

The Vac. Breaker for the kitchen sink is under the the sink compartment.

I do understand that Winne plumbs coaches in different ways so I may be wrong. Check your plumbing diagram at their web site - Plumbing diagrams.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:17 AM   #10
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I agree with Joe K and tomsm ... the anti siphon check valve is not letting the water flow ...
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Old 04-14-2008, 01:39 PM   #11
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Here is a pic of my backflush connector, it does not have a checkvalve like my fresh water connection does.


Here is a pic of my backflush vacume breaker (these are also known as backflow preventer and anti-siphon valves), located under the bathroom sink. This valve prevents black tank liquid from flowing out into the water hose by breaking the vacume.


Here is a pic of my grey tank vent air inlet (there is another one under the kitchen sink). This valve lets air into the drain line but not out.
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:57 AM   #12
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i betcha the check valve broke loose and parts of it are somewhere inside the line to the black water tank, blocking the hose. don't think u can backflow it. i guess that means u will have to dissassemble it. good luck!!!
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