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02-10-2022, 03:47 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2020
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Tire sidewall issue
i have 500 miles on new 2108Ds with Trail Guide all Terrain 235/75R15 tires that came new with new trailer.[ATTACH]181970[/ After trip of 200 miles we noticed the sidewalls were faded for lack of better description(see image). Any ideas on what this is or caused it? It is on all 4 tires, pressure is good, we did not rub up against anything, RV Dealer, Winnebago help line had never seen this and has no idea. One tire shop said tires are failing and not right tire for trailer another said opposite, have not heard back from tire manufacture. Not sure what to do any ideas?
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02-11-2022, 06:11 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 106
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I have never seen this. The stock tires on new trailers have been known not to be of the best quality.
A tag near the front of your unit should specify the size and type of tire you need, I.e., the ply rating to be used. I always used tires designated ST, or special trailer tires. These tires have stiffer sidewalls and are formulated to also resist UV radiation from the sun better than normal car or light truck tires.
If you ever see a trailer being backed in a tight turn you will see why you should have the stiffer sidewalls.
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02-16-2022, 11:09 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 222
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I hate to say it, but that brand is a cheap chinese tire. I would insist on a replacement. The sidewall discoloration *might* be cosmetic, but it's just as likely an indication of problems to come.
Tire problems can be literal killers.
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02-17-2022, 05:37 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 356
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I'd be suspicious of any tire that was white walled and labeled "All Terrain", "Trail Guide". A tire can't be "All Terrain", trailer rated and white walled and be any good at all of them
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02-17-2022, 09:37 PM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Belmont, CA
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Looks to me, to be a manufacturer issue. Maybe it’s cosmetic, and maybe not. I wouldn’t bet my life on the former…
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02-18-2022, 10:05 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 45
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Thanks everybody, looks like it is called tire blooming and is cosmetic.
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02-18-2022, 10:14 AM
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Site Team
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Location: Spring Branch, TX
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02-18-2022, 10:39 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2020
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thanks a bunch, after much research that is what is wrong.
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02-18-2022, 10:59 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2022
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Learn something new every day or so
I never heard of "tire blooming" and have never seen it that I know of.
Good that it's just cosmetic.
Weird though, I've owned a few tires at the age of near 69. You would think I'd have seen this before. Just searching the term turns up lots of articles, but nothing that explains why a set of tires does this occasionally while most do not.
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02-18-2022, 02:27 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarryLS
I hate to say it, but that brand is a cheap chinese tire. I would insist on a replacement. The sidewall discoloration *might* be cosmetic, but it's just as likely an indication of problems to come.
Tire problems can be literal killers.
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02-20-2022, 07:57 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
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Still would like to know the Size, LR and tire type and confirm it meets the requirements (gawr) seen on the Certification Sticker.A photo of the sticker would answer a lot of questions.
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02-21-2022, 04:44 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Central OH
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I have a 2020 2108 DS with the same tire brand. My tires have done the same although not quite as pronounced. I’ve put about 5000 miles on them to date. I do a lot of short trips, 3 hours @ 200 miles being the longest. Like most RV owners on this forum I perform a thorough check/inspection of my entire rig before heading out at Spring and before every pull.
Good luck!
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02-21-2022, 05:16 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mono2
I have a 2020 2108 DS with the same tire brand. My tires have done the same although not quite as pronounced. I’ve put about 5000 miles on them to date. I do a lot of short trips, 3 hours @ 200 miles being the longest. Like most RV owners on this forum I perform a thorough check/inspection of my entire rig before heading out at Spring and before every pull.
Good luck!
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you sound like us although we do not have as many miles but we also do short trips but have a 2 week in Yellowstone coming up which will involve 3000 miles or so.
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02-21-2022, 06:45 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Central OH
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I’m jealous! We’re about a year or three from taking longer trips and YS is on the list. Can’t wait. Enjoy that trip. Stay safe and good luck!
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02-21-2022, 07:18 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 9
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Many miles on Trail guide tires
I purchased 2108ds in 2020. My Trail guides have taken me from NC to New Orleans, Mt Rushmore, Yellowstone, Yosemite, Grand canyon, Zion, Niagara falls, Quebec, Prince Edward island, and Bar harbor. Keep them at 44lbs as stated on decal don't drive over 65. If something breaks don't let it ruin your trip, work around it, if your tires are round and have good tread enjoy yourself!
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02-21-2022, 07:37 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Land of calenture (TX)
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As I mentioned in the duplicate thread, there were lots of trailers sold by Winnebago with the Trail Guide tires and I can’t recall seeing many (any) complaints here. I was actually disappointed when my 2021b came with something else.
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02-22-2022, 08:18 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
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Could someone with the white letter tire post a picture of the Certification sticker? That would provide most of the information we tire guys would like to know.
Thanks in advance.
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02-22-2022, 10:56 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2020
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You can do a google image search. It just says 235/75R15. Inflate to 44psi. No ST designation on the sticker.
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02-23-2022, 11:54 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by backtrack15
You can do a google image search. It just says 235/75R15. Inflate to 44psi. No ST designation on the sticker.
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44 psi could be a "P" type tire which means the load capacity stated on the tire sidewall needs to be reduced by dividing by 1.10.
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