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Old 08-03-2020, 04:43 PM   #61
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We tow our 2020 2106FBS with 2018 F150 Lariat 2.7 Ecoboost. Only disappointment with our F150 is the 26 gallon tank(220 miles range), should got the 36 gallon tank instead. .
Imagine how the Ranger owners feel with an 18 gallon tank!
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That's why i carry 5 gallon gas can in the bed!
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:01 PM   #63
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Imagine how the Ranger owners feel with an 18 gallon tank!
I was interested about the new Ranger, saw that 18g tank and that was an immediate show-stopper. Real world testing proved Ford's claims of 22+ mpg was inaccurate, especially when you get into the boost.

I was interested in the new Bronco with the turbo 2.7l, but not $40k interested since the 2-dr has a 16.9g tank the 4-dr 20.8g.

90% of my towing is on the Colorado Plateau, 5300ft minimum altitude, usually more. I get about 10mpg avg on the Plateau from the 4.7l V8 4Runner using Premium fuel, 23g fuel tank.

I'll stay with the 4Runner V8, can't justify any other purchase be it Chevy Colorado diesel or full-size. If I owned a V6 4Runner I'd look to upgrade, the 4.0l V6 isn't strong enough, owned 4.0's before.
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:54 PM   #64
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...I was interested in the new Bronco with the turbo 2.7l, but not $40k interested since the 2-dr has a 16.9g tank the 4-dr 20.8g...

Can't really say I'd be crazy about the specified 3500 lbs towing capacity, either. 2800 lbs (80%) pretty much puts you in the popup/teardrop-towing or Airstream Basecamp category.
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:04 PM   #65
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Can't really say I'd be crazy about the specified 3500 lbs towing capacity, either. 2800 lbs (80%) pretty much puts you in the popup/teardrop-towing or Airstream Basecamp category.
Yep, Ford will have to provide something more than the ClassII hitch. That's a bumper hitch.
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Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk

Towing capacity: 4500lbs
Max tong weight:450lbs

Drove 4.5 hours when I picked it up. Stopped at the scale and dry weight of the TT was 3219lbs

Averaged 18.5 L/100km (12.7 mpg)

Handled very well. Very happy with my setup.
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2100bh and I tow it with a Ford Flex. Scales measured my rig at 4300 for the TT and 10400 for my GCVW. And that was on a trip to the mtns of NC. The Flex can tow it but it requires a lot of human input. I have to drive it like a standard and shift the gears otherwise it it will search constantly for the right gear. Also I slow down. Flex seems happiest between 45 and 60 depending on conditions. Handling wise is great the flex feels very stable and the TT does not wag. It also doesn’t feel like it is pushing the flex around on down hill sections. On one steep, curvy Mtn road I had to drop to 2nd and keep the RPMs revved (3500 -4000) in order to climb but it made it without any issues. I will admit I was glad when that section was completed.
A full size truck would be awesome for sure but a midsize SUV will get the job done if that is what you already own.
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Imagine how the Ranger owners feel with an 18 gallon tank!
It’s really not an issue unless you enjoy driving over 200mi without stopping.
Our Canyon has a 20 gal tank. At about 12 mpg @65 mph, we can go 200mi without worry, but age has a way of stopping you much more frequently. We do carry a 5gal can in the bed to be on the safe side.
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Old 09-08-2021, 08:07 AM   #69
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We sold our 30 foot 8000 lb TT this year. Kept the 3/4 ton chevy 8.1 liter we pulled it with.
Just picked up our new 1708FB. Got 14 MPG on the 200 mile trip to the dealer and 10 mpg on the way home. The new rig towed like a dream.
We have a 2021 Ranger on order. With the optional tow package, it is rated at 7500 lbs.
We went with 2wd to save weight and the locking differential to improve slippery condition driving.
Yes, the tiny gas tank is not good, but we're retired and not in a hurry so much anymore. We will have 5 gallon gas can on board, just in case.
We will keep the old Chevy for now. Actually, with the chip issue, we may never get to see the Ranger.
Off topic, I know, but how do you guys winterize the 1708 FB? TT we just sold had a separate winterizing port which made it way simple.
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...Kept the 3/4 ton chevy 8.1 liter we pulled it with.
Just picked up our new 1708FB. Got 14 MPG on the 200 mile trip to the dealer and 10 mpg on the way home. The new rig towed like a dream.
We have a 2021 Ranger on order....We will keep the old Chevy for now. Actually, with the chip issue, we may never get to see the Ranger.
Off topic, I know, but how do you guys winterize the 1708 FB? TT we just sold had a separate winterizing port which made it way simple.

I'm impressed. 10 mpg from an 8.1. That's about what our 5.3 Suburban manages.

I know it might feel like overkill but you may find your 3/4 ton will be what you want just for the capacity and stability. We pull a 1706FB (the earlier version of yours) and love the contribution to stability that the longer wheelbase of the Suburban lends. When we first bought our trailer in March last year, we had a 2000 ZR-2 with the V-6. For the sake of conversation, let's ignore the lack of power, braking, and cooling; the shorter truck itself didn't feel any where near as stable as the 'Burb. Not sure how much longer the Ranger's wheelbase is compared to a 2000 mid-size truck, but guaranteed it's not your big truck.


Happy travels! You'll like that 1708 - it goes into campsites a lot of other rigs can't.
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We sold our 30 foot 8000 lb TT this year. Kept the 3/4 ton chevy 8.1 liter we pulled it with.
Just picked up our new 1708FB. Got 14 MPG on the 200 mile trip to the dealer and 10 mpg on the way home. The new rig towed like a dream.
We have a 2021 Ranger on order. With the optional tow package, it is rated at 7500 lbs.
We went with 2wd to save weight and the locking differential to improve slippery condition driving.
Yes, the tiny gas tank is not good, but we're retired and not in a hurry so much anymore. We will have 5 gallon gas can on board, just in case.
We will keep the old Chevy for now. Actually, with the chip issue, we may never get to see the Ranger.
Off topic, I know, but how do you guys winterize the 1708 FB? TT we just sold had a separate winterizing port which made it way simple.
Your crew Cab SB Ranger wheelbase will be plenty long enough for the 1708. Just get a good WDH with built-in anti sway and it will tow like a dream. The Ranger should get similar mpg numbers as our Canyon. Be careful not to overload truck bed or pass-thru, so as not to exceed payload or RAWR. Your tongue weight will be 12% of trailer GVWR and must be subtracted from available payload. We get 23mpg not towing and 11.5 towing. Carry a 5gal can in the bed. And we carry a full 7gal fresh water jug under the dinette over the axles. Only light stuff in the truck bed.

Last year we winterized using compressed air attached to city water inlet, first draining the wh, then turn bypass valves. and blowing all cold and hot taps one at a time. Open low point and fresh water drain valves before blowing. Then finish by pouring some pink into each of the traps. I use one gallon which treats all 3 traps. If your waste tanks are not empty, pour some pink into each of them. I don’t want any pink in my fresh water system, so that why I use compressed air to clear the lines instead of using pink.
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Well, 10 mpg for that is pretty good. It's also due to "rounding"... carried out to 1 decimal point it got 9.7. Still okay in my book. Hauling around our 2 slide Flagstaff it got around 6-7 mpg. After a couple trips, I quit checking.
For the first 6 years of our traveling we had a new 2500 RAM w the Cummins. It only got 11-12 mpg, which really disappointed me. It would do over 20 on its own. Had to take a couple years off due to family issues so we sold the Ram. Dang near got back what we paid for it. Picked up the Chevy for a good price and no more hassles with DEF.
Only advantage w the RAM was crazy grunt in the mountains.
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...Last year we winterized using compressed air attached to city water inlet, first draining the wh, then turn bypass valves. and blowing all cold and hot taps one at a time. Open low point and fresh water drain valves before blowing. Then finish by pouring some pink into each of the traps. I use one gallon which treats all 3 traps. If your waste tanks are not empty, pour some pink into each of them. I don’t want any pink in my fresh water system, so that why I use compressed air to clear the lines instead of using pink.

That's my system exactly with one difference: opening the water heater drain to blow it out instead of crawling around under the mattress to get to the bypass valves.

I am curious about what size compressor you use. I have a small compressor (not a pancake) that was my father's back in the day and it takes about 5 minutes to barely get 45 lbs into a bike tire. I also have a single tank ARB compressor under the truck's hood for airing up tires and the air bags in my suspension when towing. I'm thinking it might be a bit too much pressure for the trailer's plumbing but if not, it sure would make faster work of blowing out the lines than that old one.


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In August, we did a tour of most of the Canadian Maritimes. Just about 5000km in total (3100 miles) towing the 1800BH with our diesel Colorado.

We averaged 15.3 MPG over the whole thing, with the majority being spent at 55mph. Best was a stretch of flat ground at 45mph where we averaged 17.5 MPH. Worst tanks were around Gaspe peninsula with some hellacious grades (20%) where we got about 13 MPG.

The trailer was probably right on the 5000lb limit, but I didn't have opportunity to weigh it. I did have too much tongue weight, and best I could manage with the WDH was to get the front end back at it's unladen height, and the rear end squatted about 2". This is probably largely due to putting the off-grid power system in the front passthrough, which I may have to revise next year.

Though, I also find the axles on the 1800BH are probably further back than they need to /should be.

Otherwise, truck did great. I found the trailer was really easy to two, we went to many places where I said "man, we could not go here with a bigger trailer". And only one place where I thought "if we were doing the Vanlife thing, we could have parked here."

And this setup garnered quite a bit of attention every time we stopped.
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I am curious about what size compressor you use. I have a small compressor (not a pancake) that was my father's back in the day and it takes about 5 minutes to barely get 45 lbs into a bike tire. I also have a single tank ARB compressor under the truck's hood for airing up tires and the air bags in my suspension when towing. I'm thinking it might be a bit too much pressure for the trailer's plumbing but if not, it sure would make faster work of blowing out the lines than that old one.


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Mine is a cheap 12v Chinese inflator (Tirewell) I bought on Amazon for about $50 as I recall. It’s strong enough to blow water out the plumbing, inflate bike and truck tires, and can actually muster enough pressure to inflate trailer tires to 50psi. I think anything more tha 45psi could damage the plumbing. So I go with 40psi for that.
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And this setup garnered quite a bit of attention every time we stopped.
I would think so. What is that truck bed of yours? Is that an ice cream truck?
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I had asked in an earlier post about winterizing my 1708fb. So after more poking around, I was able to locate the antifreeze intake hose on the water pump. I will have to add some length to it to be able to use but glad I can put that issue to rest.
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I'm curious on what is your tow vehicle for towing your Micro Minnie 1706FB/1708FB and how it performs in various traffic conditions and elevations.
We tow our 2018 1706FB with a 2019 Dodge Grand Caravan, with the Factory Installed Tow Package that also has computer controlled rear air bags that will bring the Grand Caravan level within 2 miles after underway. We use a good W.D.H. and use 3 chain links from the drop down hooks on the trailer frame.

We get 13-15 mpg, when at 60 mph on a flat interstate, and 12-13 (on average) for most other grades of roadway, or if there is a very strong headwind to fight.

Fully loaded with gear, our 1706FB weighs in at 3,650 pounds, towed by a vehicle rated to pull 3,600 pounds.
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I would think so. What is that truck bed of yours? Is that an ice cream truck?
No, it's an Australian style touring canopy. Still a WIP. This is what it will look like when done. Will be configurable, and in this case, was set up to store 4 mountain bikes. Will be nice to have them locked up and weatherproof.
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We sold our 30 foot 8000 lb TT this year. Kept the 3/4 ton chevy 8.1 liter we pulled it with.
Just picked up our new 1708FB. Got 14 MPG on the 200 mile trip to the dealer and 10 mpg on the way home. The new rig towed like a dream.
We have a 2021 Ranger on order. With the optional tow package, it is rated at 7500 lbs.
We went with 2wd to save weight and the locking differential to improve slippery condition driving.
Yes, the tiny gas tank is not good, but we're retired and not in a hurry so much anymore. We will have 5 gallon gas can on board, just in case.
We will keep the old Chevy for now. Actually, with the chip issue, we may never get to see the Ranger.
Off topic, I know, but how do you guys winterize the 1708 FB? TT we just sold had a separate winterizing port which made it way simple.
Well, yesterday our Ford dealer called and said due to supply issues our 2021 Ranger order has been canceled. He said the order would automatically be changed to a 2022 and production of those would begin in December.
Trouble is we have already made camping reservations for winter in Florida.
So I will cancel that 2022 order and spend a bit on my old trusty Silverado 2500 to try to avoid any potential breakdown issues.
We'll just rethink the whole thing in the spring.
BTW.. got the Minnie winterized and in mothballs until we head south after the first of the year.
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