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09-13-2020, 04:30 PM
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Winnebago Master
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Originally Posted by 55ahdrn
I have also been looking at 2108TB and surprised by change in GVWR. Towing with F150 4x4 3.5 eco boost. I cant see that 960 pounds is enough as I gather this needs to include the people in addition to water / propane / supplies etc.
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I finally found a listing on RV trader showing a cargo capacity of 960 lbs for the 2108TB. The early August builds shipped with stickers showing 760 lbs. I’m glad this error got fixed. Regardless, this would represent the limit for water, batteries, propane, and gear. Since people aren’t in the trailer during travel you don’t need to worry about their weight.
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09-13-2020, 04:34 PM
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Winnebago Master
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Originally Posted by backtrack15
I finally found a listing on RV trader showing a cargo capacity of 960 lbs for the 2108TB. The early August builds shipped with stickers showing 760 lbs. t.
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Don't be so sure it's an error. I'm pretty sure the shipped weight stickers are based on actual weight of that particular trailer. They could easily vary 200 pounds.
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09-13-2020, 05:37 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Originally Posted by Goodspike
Don't be so sure it's an error. I'm pretty sure the shipped weight stickers are based on actual weight of that particular trailer. They could easily vary 200 pounds.
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I agree the actual dry weights can and do vary from trailer to trailer of the same model. That being said, my hunch is that Winnebago does not weigh each trailer. My guess is they weigh a few early on (first five or so) and pick a number that is henceforth applied to all trailers of that model. It's either that or they are very consistent on their builds for a given model. This 200 lb swing is the only variation I've seen. The others have all been a precise match for the advertised dry weight.
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09-16-2020, 11:12 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 7
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Originally Posted by backtrack15
There are a handful of the 2021.5 models on RV Trader now and the specifications have now appeared on the Winnebago website. In looking at the photos/tables, it appears that the smaller dual axle units (1708FB, 180X, 210X) have switched to 2500# Dexter torsion axles (each) and a GVWR of 5000#. The dry weights look similar to before. The 1700BH and the 2306BHS now have 4000# Dexter torsion axles. The 2306BHS now has a GVWR of 6000#.
If you're a big fan of high GVWR and GAWR, you might want to snap up one of the few 2021.0 models still on the lot.
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on the 2100BH, that would be 1140lbs of CCC. Does that seem like enough to yall?
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09-16-2020, 11:47 AM
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Winnebago Master
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Originally Posted by LetsGoChamp
on the 2100BH, that would be 1140lbs of CCC. Does that seem like enough to yall?
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Given the size of these trailers and their limited storage space, I expect most of the 210X series trailers run around within 1000 lbs of their dry weights.
I was originally pretty ticked about this change... and I still think they went a bit too far to cater to ignorance. I had been looking forward to not worrying much about my cargo. The structure and frame are reportedly the same as before. The axles are the real limit now, and they do have a true limit of 5000# (2500 each). Torsion axles do not share the load equally unless towed level. According to the Dexter applications guide, axles used in tandems can temporarily support twice the rated load (5K) like when going over a speed bump or driveway entrance. They are not expected to support more than that. Certainly if your trailer weighs 5K, the tow vehicle is supporting ~500 to 600 lbs. The axles therefore are supporting 4400-4500 lbs (some margin). The new 2306BHS is more my speed, 8K of axles on a 6K GVWR trailer. That's how the MM used to be, and why I switched my order to the bigger trailer.
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09-16-2020, 12:00 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jan 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by backtrack15
Given the size of these trailers and their limited storage space, I expect most of the 210X series trailers run around within 1000 lbs of their dry weights.
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Mine has a 7,000 pound limit and I'm still probably within 1,000 pounds of added weight (total weight under 5,000). Water is the heaviest of the added materials, batteries, propane and generator the next. Most the rest is pots, dishes and clothing. Those last things would probably have to weigh over 400 pounds to put me over 1,000.
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10-02-2020, 09:26 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Oct 2020
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Conflicting Specs
Seems like the change hasn't hit the dealers websites as far as weight ratings? So the Winnebago website says one thing and the dealer website says another. What to believe? The sticker on the trailer I guess? Im picking up my 2021 1700BH next week and am hopeful it has the 4200GVWR.
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10-03-2020, 05:41 AM
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Winnebago Master
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Originally Posted by Dnalyr91
Seems like the change hasn't hit the dealers websites as far as weight ratings? So the Winnebago website says one thing and the dealer website says another. What to believe? The sticker on the trailer I guess? Im picking up my 2021 1700BH next week and am hopeful it has the 4200GVWR.
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The only thing that matters is what the sticker on the trailer itself says. The product specs on dealer websites are often wrong, so I wouldn’t pay any attention to them. Enjoy the new trailer!
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10-03-2020, 09:41 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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What's messed up is Winnebago site has just changed some of the GVWR weights twice in the last couple of months. For example, the 2108DS was just changed to 5,500 in the last couple of days and now have 3.000 lb axles. I just picked up a 2021B 2108DS on Tuesday that was manufactured 8/20 that has a GVWR of 5,000 with 2,500 axles. The 2108DS that were manufactured before 8/20 were rated at GVWR @ 7,000.
What is happening is Winnebago is making changes and dealers are not informed. I've have looked at a lot of dealer sites and most if not all have the wrong weights listed.
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10-03-2020, 11:17 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2020
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I told them going to 2500 axles and 5000 was a stupid mistake. I know people have been walking away from orders (including me). Hopefully they are actually going back up a bit on both capacities.
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10-03-2020, 01:00 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Originally Posted by Paul n Nancy
What's messed up is Winnebago site has just changed some of the GVWR weights twice in the last couple of months. For example, the 2108DS was just changed to 5,500 in the last couple of days and now have 3.000 lb axles. I just picked up a 2021B 2108DS on Tuesday that was manufactured 8/20 that has a GVWR of 5,000 with 2,500 axles. The 2108DS that were manufactured before 8/20 were rated at GVWR @ 7,000.
What is happening is Winnebago is making changes and dealers are not informed. I've have looked at a lot of dealer sites and most if not all have the wrong weights listed.
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I just checked this and you are correct. They have revised upward the GVWR to 5500# on several floorplans and also bumped up the axle capacity to 3000#/axle on those same models. That is a great change. I didn't mince words with Adam when I spotted 2500/5000 on the first 2021 2108TB that arrived on RVTrader. I told him they had taken a competitive strength and made it a weakness by dropping too far. I'm glad they have decided to go back up a bit to something more sensible for a trailer with a ~4000# dry weight.
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