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Old 08-27-2007, 07:34 PM   #1
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:10 AM   #3
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Ranger,,,Its tolerable, doesn't have a lot of WOW factor, but it looks like a "nice" moho. Super, Great or Fantastic its not. But Winnie has (I think) a reputation for building serviceable motorhomes at an afordable(?)price. Like the position of the TV and of course would prefer the Dinette but I am sure this could be a option...Take care
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:25 AM   #4
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I don't care for the large "humps" the headlights are in. The lights themselves look like they might be an impreovement over the "cateyes".
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:32 AM   #5
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What's with the slide mechanism ... and the "head knocker" storage under the slide-out .... looks like a step backwards to me
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:37 AM   #6
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The looks are okay. I'm more disappointed in the floorplans. I'm afraid I will need to look at other manufacturers to find a pusher less than 37' long. This trend toward "bigger is better" is not what I was hoping for.
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:03 AM   #7
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Skigramp,

On the bedroom slide Winnie has always had the compartements under it. Its only on the living room slide that the storemore system is used and I only know about the two slide units.

I don't know about the new mechanism, I have seen it on other motorhomes and I guess it is susposed to be better. Good Luck
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Old 08-28-2007, 04:09 AM   #8
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Sorry guys, but IMO it is pretty ugly. Really don't care for the front end and think even less of the interior. I guess that is supposed to be a more modern look but I'm more of a traditional guy....I like raised-panel cabinet doors for example. To me it looks like an econo-bus.

I do like the 37H floorplan which is very similar to the 36 I have with the exception of the 37" TV located in the living area.
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Overall, looks like a slightly up-scale version of the Destination with Voyage headlights.

Winnie seems to be giving up on StorMore. Head knocker or not when the cargo bays are an integral part of the body you get more net cubic feet of storage, some pass-through storage and ability to store more weight in the bays. StorMore is only rated at 300lbs per door so this will help with those loads of wood, etc.

Interior looks like more storage which would make the DW happy...at least if it had a dinette. I too don't care much for the European design of the cabinets.

In any case, lack of a CAT engine option from FL is a deal killer for us for any Winnie DP.
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:27 AM   #10
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I too like the look of raised panel woodwork. The wood in the new Journey looks too 'modern' for my tastes. Front end is 'OK'. I can also live w/o the store-more if you really can get more storage integral to the frame.

What really disappoints me is the loss of the shorter coaches - 34' and 36'. Will probably push me to look at other manufacturers when the time comes. Not to mention the HUGE jump in MSRP.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:12 AM   #11
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When you add the typical options, the Journey's price is approaching the Phaeton from Tiffin, and in my opinion the Phaeton wins hands down. The new Journey cabinet doors looks like 1 by 4 pieces of wood glued together. The interior lost a lot without the raised panel doors. As a 2003 Journey owner, we love it and have had very few Winnebago related problems, but I must say if we were to buy another MH it would not be a Journey. Tiffin can't build the Phaeton fast enough and Winnebago should have put a bulls eye on the Phaeton when they designed the new Journey. Boy did they miss the mark. Look at Lazy Days web site. They have about 25-30 Phaeton's listed all the time and most are 'Sale Pending'. Too bad because we are Winnebago fans.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:11 AM   #12
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Nope, I am not too crazy about the floorplans offered or the new look. I am sorry to see Winnebago move away from shorter DPs and I agree that our next rig probably will be a different brand unless Winnebago comes up with something better in the next few years. In the meantime we're going to continue to enjoy our 34H, I guess it is a 'classic collector's item' by now .

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ON EDIT: I do like the placement of the windshield wipers and the use of a flat screen TV as the main TV.
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Old 08-28-2007, 02:35 PM   #13
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Indeed, Tiffin offers very attractive units when compared to Winny. Biggest Tiffin downside is no EMS.

I also prefer the raised panels; however, the new Journey 39' floor plan is pretty nice. Also prefer dinette, but that's available. Re no StoreMore, what is the "average" CCC of this rig? That will determine how much add'l weight can be carried. Spartan/Cummins ISL combo would be nice (SIDE radiator).

Are the Winny 2008 TV's, DVD/VCR & cabling all HD READY?

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Old 08-28-2007, 05:14 PM   #14
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We looked at the 08 today. We didn't like it at all. If we get another coach, it will probably not be a Winnebago. They are still using the Demented inverters and the dealer told us they may be changing from HWH.
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Sorry,,,reminds me of the Flounder someone tried to pass off on folks..I too will be looking at other companies products in the future..
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:37 PM   #16
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by skigramp:
What's with the slide mechanism ... and the "head knocker" storage under the slide-out .... looks like a step backwards to me </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pass through storage.

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Old 08-28-2007, 11:08 PM   #17
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There's another thread on these new rigs about a week old HERE, and it's getting a LOT of hits.
I like:
The stainless sink (finally)
What appears to be real tile
The LCD up front is nice, but that was coming anyway.

I don't like:
The design
Passthru is nice but I like my bins even with the slide. Easier on the head
C-7 has been replaced
34H has been dropped. Understood that this is an expensive coach for the size, but here we go, dropping everything short of 37-38'. Probably to leave anything shorted to the Class 'C's

All the reasons I bought this coach have gone away. What do they say about voting with your pocketbook?
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:20 AM   #18
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SCVJeff:
There's another thread on these new rigs about a week old HERE, and it's getting a LOT of hits.
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No pics on the Winnie site or that thread....Lichtsinn's is the first dealer to have pics, and as usual, GOOD ones....
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Don't mean to be picky but its Lichtsinn Motors. Have a great day
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:01 AM   #20
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The first page of the "PREVIEW" turned me off MSRP base $216K fagettaboutit!!!!!!!!!!!!
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