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Old 03-27-2012, 02:33 PM   #1
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Winnebago Journey Owners Beware Of A Fire Hazard

I am replacing the ceiling fixtures in my 07 Journey with some fixtures I plan to market. Please take a look at the recessed light fixture that I removed from above the control panel in the galley. This scares me to death and more the reason all the light fixtures are coming out as soon as possible. The last picture is the LED replacement bulb I adapted to the factory fixture. I have also designed replacements for the florescent tube fixtures. I'll have more pictures to come after I get every thing installed. The factory installed bulbs are too hot. has anyone else seen this type of heat build up in their lighting?
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:43 PM   #2
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Are they all like that? Was the bulb a higher wattage than recomended? Are you the original owner? Just curious...
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:45 PM   #3
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I am replacing the ceiling fixtures in my 07 Journey with some fixtures I plan to market. Please take a look at the recessed light fixture that I removed from above the control panel in the galley. This scares me to death and more the reason all the light fixtures are coming out as soon as possible. The last picture is the LED replacement bulb I adapted to the factory fixture. I have also designed replacements for the florescent tube fixtures. I'll have more pictures to come after I get every thing installed. The factory installed bulbs are too hot. has anyone else seen this type of heat build up in their lighting?
Sorry, the answer to your question is no. Although I don't have a Journey, the company uses alot of the same goods throughout the line.
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Old 03-27-2012, 04:08 PM   #4
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Yea right you just happened to have a problem and you are marketing the solution.???????
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:46 PM   #5
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I am the original owner of this DP, bought it new in 08. Check my past posts and you will see this. This fixture had the original bulb. I am not trying to sell anything here just put every one on notice. Check your fixtures. You can't see the damage from the outside.
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Old 03-28-2012, 06:51 AM   #6
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Same light over control.center. Orig. Owner & bulb. Until I can replace w/ LED very carefully about use. The inside is black & brown.
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Old 03-28-2012, 09:03 PM   #7
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Yea right you just happened to have a problem and you are marketing the solution.???????
Nice attitude.... I suggest you go and look at yours before flagrantly bashing people because it's a common problem that they ALL have.

To the OP: You're a little late on marketing lamp fixes. Starlightsinc.com, and several others already sell LED plug-in replacements that are way brighter than the Halogen. As for the fixture, Gamblers RV out in Quartzsite has boxes of them for $6ea.
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Old 03-29-2012, 08:47 AM   #8
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Nice attitude.... I suggest you go and look at yours before flagrantly bashing people because it's a common problem that they ALL have.

To the OP: You're a little late on marketing lamp fixes. Starlightsinc.com, and several others already sell LED plug-in replacements that are way brighter than the Halogen. As for the fixture, Gamblers RV out in Quartzsite has boxes of them for $6ea.
In my defense I did do a search on Winnebago posts and found a few posts here in the last 6 months about bulbs - mainly changing them out due to heat and energy efficency.
Not one that they are dangerous or causing problems like this.

I did look at mine I have 21 fixtures like this in my MH

Not common at all based on my search here.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:28 AM   #9
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If you check again you will see that you have only one of this fixture, and it's over the coach "One Place" console: completely different fixture.

There have been threads about these fixtures along with pix that look essentially the same as this, mine looked that same way, and I'd you have any time whatsoever on yours, it does too.
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:29 PM   #10
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That's what I get for using an iPhone..

I twas trying to say I'll bet that if you have any time on your One Place light, it looks like the pix
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:19 PM   #11
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We've commented on other threads, and we'll chime in here. Our One Place Light Fixture looked just like the OPs. We almost never used that light (because it got hot enough that it scared us), but one evening after it had been on for a few minutes, the fixture fell apart. It was black and brown on the inside and had melted the part that held the moveable lens in.

We plugged an LED (different than the OPs) into what remained of the fixture, and are planning to pick up a replacement fixture next time we're in Forest City. (And, we'll talk to them about replacing it while we're there.)
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:59 PM   #12
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Mnichols4 - so what is the solution? Did you replace the fixture or find a different bulb? I looked at the one I have in my RV and it is similar in heat color to yours.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:20 PM   #13
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If you have a fixture that is not totally burnt out it's a simple matter of changing out the lamp.

HERE is the Starlight 160 lumen.

HERE is the 205 lumen

They both are direct plug-in replacements

Here is what the 205 looks like:




If I were doing this again I'd probably use the 160 Lumen.
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Old 03-30-2012, 11:23 PM   #14
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Good info Jeff, thanks!!
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You have to be very cautious with the G4 halogen bulbs. On my 09 Journey, there are close to 20 fixtures (different from the pictures here) using that bulb. The one fixture I looked at stated it was rated for a 20 watt bulb however, it was extremely hot using only the 10 watt bulb. I suspect the heat problem in RVs is due in part to the converter often putting well over 13 volts on these bulbs resulting in them burning both brighter and hotter. There is obviously less heat when they are powered by the battery. I concur that they are a hazard best eliminated and I have replaced all of mine with LED G4 bulbs. I measured the temperature of the old fixture with 10w halogen and it was about 120F and the same fixture with the LED runs just over 80F. Quite a diifference. You might want to consider a LED conversion. I purchased mine from e-Bay and they were shipped from China. Be cautious with LED lights as there are two designs - with and without voltage regulation. Those with voltage regulation should (theoretically) last longer and are indifferent to the polarity of the socket. Those without, require the correct polarity in the socket - something not important with the halogen bulbs. I paid about $6 for each versus $2+ plus for the non-regulated bulbs.
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The caveat with regulators is that they generate RF interference which could likely block out your OTA TV or radio if you're listening off air.

Nothings perfect...
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Old 03-31-2012, 03:28 PM   #17
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I did some modifications to the housing and then installed an MR11 LED bulb and it's a done deal !
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:36 PM   #18
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For the rest that have these fixtures, here is the Starlights replacement.


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Old 04-03-2012, 12:12 PM   #19
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Good topic, and Jeff thanks for your input and expertise that you shared with the forum. I bought those lights you recommended and realize the benefits. See you again in Quartzsite 2013.
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Sure, good luck with your venture.
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