RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-04-2020, 10:24 AM   #1
Winnebago Owner
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 54
Question Question on Onan Energy Command Generator

5.5kW FWIW. Dealer can't provide answer.
Manual doesn't come out and say it, at least in small words and short sentences I can understand.

Background: Cross-country trip with residential fridge on, may have one or both ACs running if it's that hot and humid. Generator set on "Auto On".

Is my assumption correct?: While driving everything is running on the inverter. When stopped, engine shut off, for restaurant meals, stretch-the-legs breaks or maybe overnighting in a Walmart parking lot, I shouldn't worry about battery drain or anything related because the generator will come on when it senses it needs to come on.

?
__________________
DC
2019 Vista LX 35F (Cayenne)
DCMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2020, 12:25 PM   #2
Site Team
 
creativepart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spring Branch, TX
Posts: 3,004
Your roof A/C will not run off of the inverter.

So, run the generator while driving if you want the A/C on. If all you want is to power the residential fridge, then just turn on the Inverter and start driving.

You should have more an enough battery amperage to operate the residential fridge while stopped along the way. And, generally, enough for overnight. Though it depends on your battery amp hour capacity and their state of charge - also, the temp inside the RV during the night.

Since you have an EC30 controller on your genset it will come on if your batteries drop below a specific point. But, as I understand it, the RV ignition has to be off. It can be set to start up from a demand for A/C due to temperature settings on your thermostat and OR by low battery voltage. And, you can set time parameters for how long it runs and also for what time of day it will avoid to run.

I've used my EC-30 autostart on one trip. I found it a bit confusing to setup and in fact mine didn't start and let the batteries drop one night below the threshold I had set. Seems the time settings I had entered interfered. Since it was the only time I tried using it I haven't revisited it to determine where I went wrong... but I will someday I'm sure.

Since there is a genstart button on the dashboard of my Adventurer, I usually start out on a hot day with the generator off and as I feel the temp rise I reach down and start the generator. I leave the A/C on and set so that once the genset starts powering things the A/C will come on, too. No need to use the EC-30 AGS function while driving.
__________________
2017 Winnebago Adventurer 37F
2016 Lincoln MKX Toad
creativepart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2020, 12:29 PM   #3
Site Team
 
creativepart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spring Branch, TX
Posts: 3,004
This video sure makes it look easy...



My issue was that I had changed time zones, not reset the time on the EC-30 and had Quiet Time set for the old time zone clock settings.
__________________
2017 Winnebago Adventurer 37F
2016 Lincoln MKX Toad
creativepart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2020, 06:00 AM   #4
Winnie-Wise
 
Lv2Roam2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Somewhere On the Road
Posts: 268
As I understand it:
- If you're driving with the AGS on (not during QT set hours - if you enabled the QT function) the generator will function if it sees demand from the thermostat, batteries, MW, etc.
- If you stop driving and turn the ignition off the AGS will reset to manual
- If you desire just reset the AGS and enjoy your lunch break
__________________
Steve
2015 Itasca Ellipse QD | 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Lv2Roam2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2020, 07:53 AM   #5
Site Team
 
creativepart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spring Branch, TX
Posts: 3,004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lv2Roam2 View Post
As I understand it:
- If you're driving with the AGS on (not during QT set hours - if you enabled the QT function) the generator will function if it sees demand from the thermostat, batteries, MW, etc.
- If you stop driving and turn the ignition off the AGS will reset to manual
- If you desire just reset the AGS and enjoy your lunch break
See, I always assumed that the “ignition reset to manual” precluded the AGS from working while driving. That’s what I get for assuming.
__________________
2017 Winnebago Adventurer 37F
2016 Lincoln MKX Toad
creativepart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-13-2020, 05:38 PM   #6
Winnebago Camper
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 24
Here is another really good video on how to program the GenSet

Magnum108 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2020, 07:29 PM   #7
Winnebago Master
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,326
Quote:
Originally Posted by creativepart View Post
See, I always assumed that the “ignition reset to manual” precluded the AGS from working while driving. That’s what I get for assuming.

The reset is to prevent the generator from coming on at the gas pump or inside a storage building. Too many forget to turn off Autostart systems when they stop for fuel or park inside a garage. If you start or stop the engine you have to turn the AutoStart system back on and it will run during the hours you set as not being Quiet Time.

The reset also protects service technicians from getting electrocuted by a generator auto starting while they are working on a rig.

I installed the hard wired Energy Command system in my 35U years ago since I dry camped with two dogs and a cat so they would have air conditioning without having the generator running non-stop. You can even wire it to detect power failures when on shore power
__________________
Neil V
2001 Winnebago Adventurer WFG35U
NeilV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2020, 08:04 PM   #8
Winnebago Master
 
bobmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 549
The EC-30 AGS is without a doubt one of the best tools to insure you have power when you need it.
That said, it has the worst instruction manual in terms of user friendliness but is totally and completely accurate in terms of instructions on setting it up.
I have a ResFridge and while on the road, is powered by the alternator and inverter and by the house batteries when we stop. I have it programmed to startup when we are boondocking at about 12.5v+ and shutoff at over 14 volts. I have 400 ah of battery power and overnight - while boondocking- it will come on 2 or 3 times depending on the outside temp.
It is HARD TO PROGRAM but stick with it. Most likely you will want it to start at a dropping battery voltage but I believe it should be at least 12.5 volts or higher as there is significant battery draw to restart the generator.
Program it to how you want it to operate using a time frame when you will be in the coach so you can determine if it is working the way you want it to. If not, you can change the program until it does what you want - when you want. Once you have been able to do that, it is very simple to change the times to the period you actually want it to operate.
Good luck and dont give up !!!
__________________
Bob
09 Journey 39Z
Southern Ontario
bobmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2020, 08:16 PM   #9
Winnebago Master
 
bobmac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Southern Ontario
Posts: 549
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lv2Roam2 View Post
As I understand it:
- If you're driving with the AGS on (not during QT set hours - if you enabled the QT function) the generator will function if it sees demand from the thermostat, batteries, MW, etc.
- If you stop driving and turn the ignition off the AGS will reset to manual
- If you desire just reset the AGS and enjoy your lunch break
Steve
When driving, the alternator will provide AC power thru the inverter. The genset will NOT activate if appliances are turned on but will activate on a thermostat call if programmed to do so or a battery voltage call if programmed. I dont believe it will active on both thermostat and voltage but I may be wrong - will definitely activate individually on either.
Generally, you should not have power issues while driving as the alternator will provide power for appliances ..... up to the current limit. If you want to power the house AC, you will need to turn the generator on. As far as I know, you cannot have simultaneous generator start triggers on the EC-30. Good luck!
__________________
Bob
09 Journey 39Z
Southern Ontario
bobmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
generator, onan


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Energy Command 30 Gen autostart - When does it shut-off audvid1 Tech | Toys and Gear 8 03-13-2018 08:15 PM
Cummins energy command 30 problem 77littledoc Electrical | Charging, Solar and Electronics 6 04-08-2015 10:11 PM
Installation of Onan Energy Command in Adventurer bsmith8 Winnebago Class A Motorhomes 87 09-15-2008 04:25 PM
Energy Command 30 Installation arkaussie Electrical | Charging, Solar and Electronics 6 10-23-2007 03:02 PM
Energy Command 30 hogbreth Electrical | Charging, Solar and Electronics 8 03-05-2005 02:19 PM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Winnebago Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×