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08-01-2019, 08:21 PM
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Veteran RV Owner
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 120
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Locked Out!
So, my darling wife has managed to lock herself out of the coach twice since we bought it. I don't blame her....I blame Winnebago!
The problem is the door latch (see attached image) on our coach cannot be replaced with a keyless latch. I have looked for one and so far come up with ZIP! RVLOCK.com told me they don't carry anything to replace it.
So, I have duplicated the keys for this latch and will hide them in a magnetic key box. Which gets to the next problem.....the last time my darling wife was locked out, and before the locksmith arrived on site, a maintenance guy from the RV Resort walked up and unlocked the coach with his "pass key". Now, that makes me feel real comfortable knowing anyone with a pass key can enter my coach without my knowledge and take whatever.
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Arthur & Sheila Mullis with "Cam" the Kitty (FMCA # F474120)
Driving 2016 Winnebago Adventurer 37F, Towing 2018 Ford Explorer 4x4 Platinum
FCC License: KO4WSO
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08-01-2019, 08:37 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Pinellas Park, FL
Posts: 647
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Not sure I can help with the pass key but our plan was/ is to put the spare in a realtor lockbox someplace in the propane cabinet since it can’t be locked. We’re currently using magnetic key holders in the water heater compartment.
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Thom Boles
2010 Winnebago Vista 32K with a 2013 Mini Cooper S Roadster toad.
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08-01-2019, 09:35 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: South Bend, WA
Posts: 2,451
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There are only about a half a dozen pass key combinations (the small key for the quickset). All RVs are made this way so they can be shown by the salesmen. The deadbolt key (the large key) is unique to each vehicle. So, ALWAYS lock your deadbolt when you leave.
I have a Class C, and I keep a spare Ford Door Key in my wallet. Perhaps you could do something along that line?
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2019 Minnie Winnie 22M on an E-450 frame
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08-01-2019, 11:38 PM
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Veteran RV Owner
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle5
There are only about a half a dozen pass key combinations (the small key for the quickset). All RVs are made this way so they can be shown by the salesmen. The deadbolt key (the large key) is unique to each vehicle. So, ALWAYS lock your deadbolt when you leave.
I have a Class C, and I keep a spare Ford Door Key in my wallet. Perhaps you could do something along that line?
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I have it covered with a spare set of keys hidden in a magnetic key box. What I want to know is WHY I cannot get a keyless latch to replace the stock latch above. Apparently, there is no such animal! How many Winnebago's use this latch....probably thousands!
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Arthur & Sheila Mullis with "Cam" the Kitty (FMCA # F474120)
Driving 2016 Winnebago Adventurer 37F, Towing 2018 Ford Explorer 4x4 Platinum
FCC License: KO4WSO
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08-02-2019, 04:55 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 396
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How can you get locked out if you need a key to lock the door?
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Sue and Tom
2015 Winnebago Vista 36Y
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08-02-2019, 06:24 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Ogdensburg, NY
Posts: 127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue46
How can you get locked out if you need a key to lock the door?
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Only the large "squared" key is required to lock, as it operates the deadbolt latch. The other lock can be operated with the little lever on the inside, i.e. locked then shut the door.
As mentioned, many parks will have the pass keys in the office. Don't ask how I know!
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08-02-2019, 06:29 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 396
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Didn't know that. Thanks.
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Sue and Tom
2015 Winnebago Vista 36Y
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08-02-2019, 08:50 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Pflugerville/Austin, Tx
Posts: 7,528
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Locked out is a problem we dealt with often as rental owners. It takes a bit to train folks who are not up on locking things but some just never seem to get the picture as they have grown up never having to think very far!
I once went to let a college girl in and as I left she came out to the front to thank me and locked herself out!
Takes a bit of training and it doesn't really "take" until that person is the one who has to do the thinking!
My wife and I both carry keys when we go out but then we also have never locked ourselves out in more than 50 years!
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08-02-2019, 08:25 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,666
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Old MH had lock box in propane compartment. Locked myself out twice but DW was inside. On the Winnebago previous and this one to lock the latch, going out of the MH big hands and fumble fingers will accidentally push the lock bar down locking the latch when you close the door. I learned to look at the latch before closing the door unless we were going somewhere. Never latched the dead bolt. To much damage if a thief wants in and uses a pry-bar.
The new to us MH is a 2015 Winni Tour 42Qd and has the key fob entry, plus ke can be used. I always have a spare key in my pocket. The ignition key is up near the satellite box to remember to turn it off when we leave. I also hang a red lanyard from the steering wheel and it is not removed until slides are in and JACKS AR UP.
Locks only keep honest people out.
On Edit: if my 2015 has a remote locking system I don't know why one cannot be put in a 2016 Adventurer.
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Wayne MSGT USMC (Ret) & Earlene (CinCHouse)
2015 Winnebago Tour 42QD - 2020 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve (TOAD)
(RVM-14) It is what it is, and then it is what you make of it.
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08-02-2019, 09:30 PM
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Veteran RV Owner
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne M
Old MH had lock box in propane compartment. Locked myself out twice but DW was inside. On the Winnebago previous and this one to lock the latch, going out of the MH big hands and fumble fingers will accidentally push the lock bar down locking the latch when you close the door. I learned to look at the latch before closing the door unless we were going somewhere. Never latched the dead bolt. To much damage if a thief wants in and uses a pry-bar.
The new to us MH is a 2015 Winni Tour 42Qd and has the key fob entry, plus ke can be used. I always have a spare key in my pocket. The ignition key is up near the satellite box to remember to turn it off when we leave. I also hang a red lanyard from the steering wheel and it is not removed until slides are in and JACKS AR UP.
Locks only keep honest people out.
On Edit: if my 2015 has a remote locking system I don't know why one cannot be put in a 2016 Adventurer.
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Is your coach latch just like the one above? If so, who made your keyless latch?
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Arthur & Sheila Mullis with "Cam" the Kitty (FMCA # F474120)
Driving 2016 Winnebago Adventurer 37F, Towing 2018 Ford Explorer 4x4 Platinum
FCC License: KO4WSO
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08-03-2019, 02:03 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,666
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The remote control is mad by Trimark. I don't know how easy it would be for you to convert it, but they would be the people to talk to. Winnebago help line should be able to tell you if it is possible.
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Wayne MSGT USMC (Ret) & Earlene (CinCHouse)
2015 Winnebago Tour 42QD - 2020 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve (TOAD)
(RVM-14) It is what it is, and then it is what you make of it.
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08-03-2019, 02:06 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 396
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What good would a keyfob do? That would be attached to a key ring which presumably had the MH key on it.
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Sue and Tom
2015 Winnebago Vista 36Y
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08-03-2019, 02:18 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,666
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Well, depends on how you have everything. In my case I have two keys and the key fob. My TOAD is key-less so both fobs are on a slip ring hooked to my belt. One key is like a push button knife in that it folds into a case. That is my separate ignition key to keep weight off of the key-hole. The other key is on a ring in my pocket.
So consider pulling up to your RV and you have groceries, or it is raining, or you are going out and get in the car and remembered you didn't lock the MH door. On push on the fob and it is either open or closed, your choice. Also in my MH, one key opens everything so when I'm at a diesel pump I can leave the ignition key in and use the key on my key ring to open the fuel door. Also in my case my fob unlocks or locks the bay compartments. Makes it real nice to have the fob hanging from my belt.
Your original post was asking for a key-less latch. What I have said I have is a key-less latch with the ability to also use a key. I, we, never use the dead bolt and it IS a separate key. Dead bolt locked or unlocked, it only take a long wide screwdriver to pop the door open. I'll use just the latch catch with the key-less entry and hopefully have less damage if someone other than honest people try to break in.
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Wayne MSGT USMC (Ret) & Earlene (CinCHouse)
2015 Winnebago Tour 42QD - 2020 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve (TOAD)
(RVM-14) It is what it is, and then it is what you make of it.
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08-03-2019, 05:04 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: South Bend, WA
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I would recommend locking the dead bolt on any motorhome door when underway, as I believe it increases the chances of the door remaining closed during an accident, or heaven forbid somebody walking around and accidentally falling into the door and it pops open.
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2019 Minnie Winnie 22M on an E-450 frame
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08-05-2019, 10:16 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: NW WI
Posts: 241
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne M
Well, depends on how you have everything. In my case I have two keys and the key fob. My TOAD is key-less so both fobs are on a slip ring hooked to my belt. One key is like a push button knife in that it folds into a case. That is my separate ignition key to keep weight off of the key-hole. The other key is on a ring in my pocket.
So consider pulling up to your RV and you have groceries, or it is raining, or you are going out and get in the car and remembered you didn't lock the MH door. On push on the fob and it is either open or closed, your choice. Also in my MH, one key opens everything so when I'm at a diesel pump I can leave the ignition key in and use the key on my key ring to open the fuel door. Also in my case my fob unlocks or locks the bay compartments. Makes it real nice to have the fob hanging from my belt.
Your original post was asking for a key-less latch. What I have said I have is a key-less latch with the ability to also use a key. I, we, never use the dead bolt and it IS a separate key. Dead bolt locked or unlocked, it only take a long wide screwdriver to pop the door open. I'll use just the latch catch with the key-less entry and hopefully have less damage if someone other than honest people try to break in.
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Heck, my 2003 has a fob that locks/unlocks the main door and compartments doors. Handy.... I have a switch just inside the entry door that locks the compartments too...
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08-06-2019, 06:03 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Olathe Kansas
Posts: 301
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Our extra keys are in the tow. It is GM so I can always call onstar if it is locked also.
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Jim & Pat
2018 Vesta 30T
Olathe, Kansas
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08-06-2019, 09:37 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Hernando, MS
Posts: 22
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It's happened to us twice. The first time I luckily had the key in my pocket.
The second time our grand daughter hit the lock lever on the way out.
This time no key, but I had unlocked the driver side window after the first occurrence so I had her climb in to unlock the door.
Not a good design on the door latch/lock. I have considered buying their remote lock door, but not sure it's feasible.
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"Toad" - 2019 Canyon Denali 4x4
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08-07-2019, 04:15 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Full time RV'er
Posts: 1,178
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The lever locks tend to want to lock themselves when the door is slammed shut. What I do is take a wide rubber band, size selection is important for longevity, loop it over the door handle and then over the lock lever. Boom, never locks by itself, but can be locked when I physically push down on it. Usually do that when I leave the house and have checked that I have the keys with me. Use the deadbolt other times. Been working for 15 years now, two different RVs.
Sometimes the rubber band ages out and breaks. No biggie, Dollar Tree carries bags of rubber bands for $1.
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08-07-2019, 04:30 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 79
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You turn your satellite (?) off when you leave? Please explain. Am I not doing something I should??
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'14 Winnebago Journey 42E
'02 FR Georgetown 325D
'95 Damon Hornet 305
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08-07-2019, 04:35 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,666
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I have an open faced satellite antenna called the "Traveler" and yes I turn it off so the antenna will retract. Did that clear it up?
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Wayne MSGT USMC (Ret) & Earlene (CinCHouse)
2015 Winnebago Tour 42QD - 2020 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve (TOAD)
(RVM-14) It is what it is, and then it is what you make of it.
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