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Old 11-21-2018, 11:47 AM   #1
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Hydraulic Slide Help Please

Help please! I'm stuck in a RV park in Louisiana because my slides are open and won't close. The problem started with the bedroom. I had to play with the switch, push push wiggle wiggle finally it opened now no amount of pushing or wiggling will get it to close and now the other slides won't move either. My first thought was bad switch, a hard one to find. Winnebago finally got me the right one at least they say so, only took 3 tries. The numbers on the new switch package do not match any of the numbers on my old switch and the numbers on the new switch partly match so I'm not sure. While waiting for a switch I checked all the breaker and fuse panels, all are OK. I have replaced all 5 batteries in the last 30 days house batteries read 13.5 & chassis reads 13.4. Searching the net I find that HWH says their might be a inline fuse either under the front step around the pump or on driver side under/inside the leveling panel. I looked under the step & found lots of wires, most of which look like they have connector plugs inline but nothing I could identify as a fuse or fuse holder. Still haven't taken apart the leveling panel. I called the local Camping World & found I likely know more about this system than they do. Perhaps it's because my rig isn't parked in their lot waiting for service. Please if anyone has had this problem or had to locate the fuses kindly give me a idea of what I'm looking for, how many & what kind. I don't know if I looking for inline or a panel, glass, blade or any other type of fuse. I really am not looking forward to spending the winter in Louisiana! My rig is a 2005 Winnebago Journey 39F. Thanks in advance for any and all help offered.
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My advice is to PM azpete asap. He's an HWH employee and is very active in helping people out with HWH issues. He really knows his stuff. He's helped me with HWH hydraulic issues before and I hope he's as good with electrical problems.

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Old 11-21-2018, 02:18 PM   #3
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Maybe, while waiting for a real guru, we might run through some things to kind of clear some confusion?
So I see three slides on the 39F. Does that mean three separate control switches? That would say not a switch problem as we would not expect all to fail at the same time so what might be common to all three is the pump. Any chance of checking the fluid levels to be sure it is okay as that would seem to fit the funky pushout and then quit? I will try to do some drawing looks and see if something pops up.
Meanwhile, you may need the guru!!!

Sorry, at this point the drawings for the 2000-2009 group do not come up as they should, I'm cut off on that.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:07 PM   #4
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You may find something helpful here:

https://www.hwhcorp.com/ml11570.pdf

I noticed that one of the key questions (Part 2, B.) has to do with whether or not the pump works for the jacks.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:08 PM   #5
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How about emergency retract operation from the manual?
https://winnebagoind.com/resources/m.../05Journey.pdf
Scroll all the way down to section 13 for the proc. ?
Good luck, just shooting in the dark!~
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:30 PM   #6
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Maybe, while waiting for a real guru, we might run through some things to kind of clear some confusion?
So I see three slides on the 39F. Does that mean three separate control switches? That would say not a switch problem as we would not expect all to fail at the same time so what might be common to all three is the pump. Any chance of checking the fluid levels to be sure it is okay as that would seem to fit the funky pushout and then quit? I will try to do some drawing looks and see if something pops up.
Meanwhile, you may need the guru!!!

Sorry, at this point the drawings for the 2000-2009 group do not come up as they should, I'm cut off on that.
At first it was only the bedroom slide all slides have their own switch and the other 2 worked my thought is that a fuse was popped in the changing of the bedroom switch as now all 3 are not working. The pump was changed about 18 mos. ago and slides must be in to check fluid.
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Maybe, while waiting for a real guru, we might run through some things to kind of clear some confusion?
So I see three slides on the 39F. Does that mean three separate control switches? That would say not a switch problem as we would not expect all to fail at the same time so what might be common to all three is the pump. Any chance of checking the fluid levels to be sure it is okay as that would seem to fit the funky pushout and then quit? I will try to do some drawing looks and see if something pops up.
Meanwhile, you may need the guru!!!

Sorry, at this point the drawings for the 2000-2009 group do not come up as they should, I'm cut off on that.
Morich-

If you're pulling drawings up on the Winnebago support page, I've found that when you get to the page that lists the models, you need to right click and "open link in a new tab". Is this what you were looking for? I couldn't find the slide wiring but didn't look too hard:

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Old 11-21-2018, 11:20 PM   #8
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Just have to ask: Have you checked the level of the hydraulic fluid tank. Unfortunately it is supposed to be checked with all slides and jacks in the retracted position.
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Old 11-22-2018, 09:01 AM   #9
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True, you can't check the fluid with slides out in terms of verifying an accurate level, but I don't see any reason you can't check it to determine if there's any reasonable amount of fluid in it. You'll probably need to use a light and/or stick since it'll be below the dipstick. If it's dry or almost dry you can add fluid. The only risk to overfilling is overflowing when the slides are retracted, messy but not damaging.

On the other hand, if you're stuck with the slides out, why not retract them manually and head home or somewhere where you can get help?

I don't think you ever said if your jacks worked.
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This may be too obvious, but is your starting battery fully charged or have you tried retracting your slides with the engine running?
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Old 11-22-2018, 09:17 AM   #11
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My advice is to PM azpete asap. He's an HWH employee and is very active in helping people out with HWH issues. He really knows his stuff. He's helped me with HWH hydraulic issues before and I hope he's as good with electrical problems.

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I second this recommendation to give Paul Maddox (azpete) a call. He works for HWH, is active on these forums, and seems always happy to help out fellow RVers. His number (as he has posted before) is 602 549 3638 or [email protected] .
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:47 PM   #12
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Check to make sure the parking brake is set.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:30 PM   #13
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Slides

Happened to me in Las Vegas. It was the pump. Had the wife hold the slide switch open and it took three men to push in the slides, three of them.
When we got home had the new pump installed. Problem cured.
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No followup from the OP for a week?
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:47 PM   #15
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You said you replaced a switch which had a different number, if you have the old one plug it back in and try the other slides. You may have wired the switch incorrectly, not you mistake but the manufactures have been know to change the plugs IE the wire might plug in diffrently.
My problem was a computer issue, I mailed the control panel and main board to them to fix, although the slide and jacks did not work, the jacks went first.
HWH has a trouble shooting sheet to help diagnose the issue, although manual retracting of the jacks is a good last resort in order to move.
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Just have to ask: Have you checked the level of the hydraulic fluid tank. Unfortunately it is supposed to be checked with all slides and jacks in the retracted position.
A few weeks after we bought this MH the HWH slide and jacks began to operate erratically, I filled the reservoir to the full mark on the dipstick even though the slide was extended. The system began to operate normally, the only bad effect was it pushed the excess oil out of the reservior when the jacks retracted. Technically HWH says the slide room must be retracted, but those are double-acting cylinders-oil on both sides so logically it makes no difference where the slide is positioned.


To the OP; your owners manual details how to manually retract the slide room.
You may also download the manual room retraction instructions for your specific system from HWH here.
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The inline fuses on my HWH system (one 30 amp, one 40 amp) are right on the pump motor in waterproof (ha!) sockets.
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We have a 1998 Chieftan with two slides. Years ago we experienced a similar problem while in Mexico. If we hadnít have been able to solve it we would still be down there.

We had a HWH(?) hydraulic system. The pump was above the passenger rear wheels. There are three inline automotive type fuses in wires running to the pump. Iím guessing one for each slide and one for the jacks. Check them.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:11 PM   #19
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Hapendleton to me. Found a in line fuse right next topump. Very hard to see
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Help please! I'm stuck in a RV park in Louisiana because my slides are open and won't close. The problem started with the bedroom. I had to play with the switch, push push wiggle wiggle finally it opened now no amount of pushing or wiggling will get it to close and now the other slides won't move either. My first thought was bad switch, a hard one to find. Winnebago finally got me the right one at least they say so, only took 3 tries. The numbers on the new switch package do not match any of the numbers on my old switch and the numbers on the new switch partly match so I'm not sure. While waiting for a switch I checked all the breaker and fuse panels, all are OK. I have replaced all 5 batteries in the last 30 days house batteries read 13.5 & chassis reads 13.4. Searching the net I find that HWH says their might be a inline fuse either under the front step around the pump or on driver side under/inside the leveling panel. I looked under the step & found lots of wires, most of which look like they have connector plugs inline but nothing I could identify as a fuse or fuse holder. Still haven't taken apart the leveling panel. I called the local Camping World & found I likely know more about this system than they do. Perhaps it's because my rig isn't parked in their lot waiting for service. Please if anyone has had this problem or had to locate the fuses kindly give me a idea of what I'm looking for, how many & what kind. I don't know if I looking for inline or a panel, glass, blade or any other type of fuse. I really am not looking forward to spending the winter in Louisiana! My rig is a 2005 Winnebago Journey 39F. Thanks in advance for any and all help offered.
We went thru that last ur. HWH only will talk to mobile tech not consumers. We replaced the motor for hydraulic pump. My husband put it in. He then had a senior moment and over filled it and billows of white smoke came out and I thought we were on fire! Do not fill it with slides open- that caused the overflow. BTW you can close them manually- which we did and lived with them closed till we fixed the pump . Not easy job.
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