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05-11-2022, 10:31 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2022
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Front window water stains
The driver's and passengers side windows on my coach stay dirty and streaked because the rain gutters on both sides end about half way across the top of the window. The rain water runs straight down the middle of the window and it's very difficult to keep them clean. Drives me nuts!
Does anyone have any fixes? Also, what are you using to get them clean?
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05-11-2022, 02:32 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Michigan
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Not familiar with your gutters, but would something like these work to divert the runoff?
https://www.amazon.com/Camco-42123-G...000BUOSG6?th=1
As far as glass cleaning, many recommend (and I can agree) that using "0000" steel wool along with some Windex or similar will do a great job of cleaning the glass without leaving any marks.
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05-11-2022, 03:06 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Pflugerville/Austin, Tx
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After many years of keeping/breeding tropical fish, I do not recommend any type of abrasive as even the best is, by nature, abrasive!
What that means is that it if it has enough abrasive quality to speed removing the stain, it also makes micro-scratches in the glass, which is a slippery slope. As you leave those scratches, even if you can't see them at first, they will be more prone to collecting the minerals from the water which is what you want to avoid!
When dealing with scratched glass, the first move is not to make it worse, so I use tools designed to remove things from glass, like paint and water deposits.
There are paint scrapers which are made for this if the minerals are piled up enough to feel with a carefull feel. But if it is only the shight discolored thing which you can see but not feel, I go for some of the less damaging things like first plain vinegar.
If the vinegar, which is light acid doesn't help to soften and remove the calcium and magnesium left by most water, I then try the scraper and retry the vinegar. There have been times when even the last ditch efforts with Acid Magic have not worked, if the problem has been ignored long enough and the glass is permanently damaged.
Various rubbing/ buffing ideas are always proposed but I have never found any that worked if my other tries have failed.
To me the rule has to be:
1. Try to head it off and fix it when only a small problem.
2. Don't make it worse by scratching the glass!
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Why no RV year, make and floorplan on MY signature as we suggest for others?
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05-11-2022, 06:28 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jan 2022
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Ed, thanks for your response. I bought a few sets of the extensions, but none fit my gutter profile. So still looking.
Richard, thanks to you as well. 100 percent agree, don't make it worse! My MH is new, so there is no residue that would warrant scraping. Working on the windows today and started with just plain water and dish soap. Then Rainex window cleaner. Then magic eraser and plain water. Didn't think about vinegar, but thanks! 1st thing tomorrow morning, I'll give that a go.
Love our Winnebago but the gutter design is not up to par. Thanks again!
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05-11-2022, 07:34 PM
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Winnebago Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 202235f
Ed, thanks for your response. I bought a few sets of the extensions, but none fit my gutter profile. So still looking.
Richard, thanks to you as well. 100 percent agree, don't make it worse! My MH is new, so there is no residue that would warrant scraping. Working on the windows today and started with just plain water and dish soap. Then Rainex window cleaner. Then magic eraser and plain water. Didn't think about vinegar, but thanks! 1st thing tomorrow morning, I'll give that a go.
Love our Winnebago but the gutter design is not up to par. Thanks again!
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It's one of those old chemistry things that we always forget! Much of the hard water is from calcium and magnesium and those are alkaline, so to cut through, we can often get it done with a light acid like vinegar!
Cleaning up hard water marks on fish equipment is a full time job with my hard (23 grains!) water so I did get around to using Acid Magic that is designed to clean pools and is just short of hydrochloric. Quick but hard on hands if I had any nicks or scrapes!
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Why no RV year, make and floorplan on MY signature as we suggest for others?
I currently DO NOT have one!
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05-12-2022, 10:13 AM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Kansas
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Check out this thread. I bought the ones from dragonfly and they work really well.
https://www.winnieowners.com/forums/...rs-356185.html
They are not perfect but a great improvement. I parked under pine trees and the needles clogged them and I couldn't install one on the driver's side rear because the metal gutter was installed too close to the rear cap so I didn't have enough room for the spout.
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05-12-2022, 11:03 AM
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Proud “No Intent” Owner
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Belmont, CA
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Isopropyl alcohol takes the streaks off immediately. Follow up with an ammonia free window cleaner. Easy.
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05-15-2022, 08:20 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Conway,Sc.
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I repaired a couple windows on mine that had fogged and was told by an experienced glass man to use dryer sheets soaked in warm water to clean them good. Worked great. He also told us to wax our frameless glass shower doors in our S&B to help protect them so I do the same to the windshield, drivers and passengers windows. I use Rejex on them which does make the cleaning easier. I do have the gutter spout extensions on mine which helps divert most the water off of them but still get streaking. I’m pretty sure it is a residue slipping by the extensions coming off of the dicor sealant used on the seam where the front cap meets the roof. I guess another good argument for those that replaced the dicor with eternabond.
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05-16-2022, 08:58 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 18
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We have not found a gutter extension that fits our 2003 Class C Minnie Winnie. We even bought one right at Winnebago that they assured us would fit, but alas, it doesn't.
Any other gutter extensions suggestions? That water pours over the front doors.
Leslie Mike 2003 Minnie Winnie Class C
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05-16-2022, 09:58 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Aug 2001
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A may on irv2.com designed and makes his own design and is now selling them. You don't have to loosen the OEM gutter to install them. I can't remember his name nor locate his information on irv2.com
His design does not fit behind the OEM gutter rail, sure wish I could locate that information again.
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05-16-2022, 07:48 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Sartell, MN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
A may on irv2.com designed and makes his own design and is now selling them. You don't have to loosen the OEM gutter to install them. I can't remember his name nor locate his information on irv2.com
His design does not fit behind the OEM gutter rail, sure wish I could locate that information again.
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They are listed in post #6.
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