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Old 12-22-2012, 07:02 AM   #1
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Buying a New Adventurer or Suncruiser

We finally decided it's time to upgrade to either a new Winnebago Adventurer or an Itasca Suncruiser. So far it's been a bit more challenging than when we bought our current one.

The last time out we were able to negotiate about 24% off the list price without much trouble. With a little arm twisting we were able to increase that by a couple percentage points. This time the dealers we've spoken to won't come anywhere near that. The best so far has been about 18% off list and they weren't interested in moving more than another few hundred dollars at the most. To top it off dealers seem to be offering very little for a trade in. The last dealer I spoke with was offering about 1/3 of the NADA Low Retail for a trade. So my questions to all of you are:

1. Were you able to negotiate much of a discount from the MSRP?

2. When you purchased was the dealer interested in a trade in, or ar we better off to sell it on our own.

3. Did you buy from a high volume dealer, or a mom and pop shop?

4. Were dealers farther from your place of residence more willing to deal than those in the immediate vicinity?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:34 AM   #2
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Would be helpful to know where you are located, are you looking at a 12 or 13, I would think deals could be had on a leftover 12.

I bought local for a good sized dealer, no problem on the trade in. It is winter so I would think 25-30 is not out of the question.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:42 AM   #3
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Would be helpful to know where you are located, are you looking at a 12 or 13, I would think deals could be had on a leftover 12.

I bought local for a good sized dealer, no problem on the trade in. It is winter so I would think 25-30 is not out of the question.
We're located in Wisconsin, and our focus is on a 2013 model. So far being winter hasn't had any affect of prices. Since we haven't seen exactly what we want on any of the lots we're looking to order a unit just like we did last time. I would think ordering unit would be something the dealers would be interested in. They know exactly what the customer wants, there wouldn't be any floor plan costs involved, and with a deposit and a signed contract it would be a sure sale.

The dealers we've talked to don't seem very interested in either discounting a new unit or taking a trade in.
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Old 12-22-2012, 08:45 AM   #4
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Just general speculation on my part, but I would imagine the dealer not wanting to negotiate much of a discount is because you're wanting to include a trade. If you were buying outright, you might get a better discount.

In the same light, they are offering such a poor trade in ibecause they're telling you they really don't want your old unit. Your signature shows a unit that is 12 years old, which would be a lot harder to sell than a newer unit. They'd probably have to send it to a discount auction to get anything at all out of it. Also, NADA values on rv's is based strictly on percentages from new, not actual cash value.

Strictly my opinion.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:05 AM   #5
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We're located in Wisconsin, and our focus is on a 2013 model. So far being winter hasn't had any affect of prices. Since we haven't seen exactly what we want on any of the lots we're looking to order a unit just like we did last time. I would think ordering unit would be something the dealers would be interested in. They know exactly what the customer wants, there wouldn't be any floor plan costs involved, and with a deposit and a signed contract it would be a sure sale.

The dealers we've talked to don't seem very interested in either discounting a new unit or taking a trade in.
Pleasureland RV has 4 locations in Minnesota, i purchased mine here in Minneapolis. Could be the special order on the discount, mine came fully loaded and was on their lot. I purchased mine in mid november last year.
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Old 12-23-2012, 02:43 AM   #6
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We finally decided it's time to upgrade to either a new Winnebago Adventurer or an Itasca Suncruiser. So far it's been a bit more challenging than when we bought our current one.

The last time out we were able to negotiate about 24% off the list price without much trouble. With a little arm twisting we were able to increase that by a couple percentage points. This time the dealers we've spoken to won't come anywhere near that. The best so far has been about 18% off list and they weren't interested in moving more than another few hundred dollars at the most. To top it off dealers seem to be offering very little for a trade in. The last dealer I spoke with was offering about 1/3 of the NADA Low Retail for a trade. So my questions to all of you are:

1. Were you able to negotiate much of a discount from the MSRP?

2. When you purchased was the dealer interested in a trade in, or ar we better off to sell it on our own.

3. Did you buy from a high volume dealer, or a mom and pop shop?

4. Were dealers farther from your place of residence more willing to deal than those in the immediate vicinity?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-23-2012, 06:28 AM   #7
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The Rv business seems to be up. The head winne guy was just on fox business news saying they were 6 months backlog.
I would also like to trade but I figure, with in the year, the economy will go to hell and they will be selling no motorhomes
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