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10-26-2018, 09:38 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 10
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Roof top antenna, rerun Coax
I switched to Dish, have the tailgater and a Wally. Bought the OTA connector. Hooked up coax to the OTA device, could find no channels. My thought was possibly grabbed wrong coax from cabinet, (I had been pretty positiver I had right one), se planned on checking. Got on the roof and the coax was broken. OK, that explained no signal. grabbed a new run of coax, used barrel connector to join the piece in cabinet and started pulling. Little tight at first, then easy, pulled out another 3 feet of broken coax!
OK, now for my question, is the coax embedded in the foam or is it in a run? Will I be able to run a snake from roof to cabinet, or do I need to just run over the roof?
Anyone else face this?
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10-26-2018, 09:51 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Manhattan, Kansas USA
Posts: 1,315
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Welcome. Please provide us with some information about your RV - model & year. Will make a difference on the suggestions you receive. Would also help to know what kind of TV antenna is on your roof.
Most roof top RV TV antennas get fed 12 volts from a wall plate, to power an signal booster in the antenna, or from a Box with Many Buttons (BOMB). The wall plate has a Antenna/Cable TV button and LED on it. The BOMB has something similar. No 12 volts to the signal booster and very little signal will get thru the powered off booster to the inside of the RV.
Wall plate : When LED is lit the wall plate is feeding 12 volts, when LED is off the wall plate does not feed 12 V and it switches inputs to the Cable TV input connector in the basement.
Bottom line if you ever want to connect to park cable you should feed your OTA from the wall plate or BOMB and try to put the connection between the wall plate / BOMB and the rooftop antenna back to original state.
You can go to winnebagoind.com and get the wiring diagrams for your specific make and model winnebago online, including how the TV coax is wired.
Good luck.
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Randy - Manhattan, Kansas
2015 Vista 27N
2020 Ford Escape Hybrid
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10-26-2018, 12:23 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 10
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Oops, It is a 2000 Adventurer 37G, It is the batwing antenna on the roof, thanks but I understand about the amplifier.
This has nothing to do with the amplifier and how it works, the question is regarding the routing of the antenna wire from the cabinet to the antenna.
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10-26-2018, 01:49 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Manhattan, Kansas USA
Posts: 1,315
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> OK, now for my question, is the coax embedded in the foam or is it in a run? Will I be able to run a snake from roof to cabinet, or do I need to just run over the roof?
No you won't be able to run a snake as there are sharp 90s in the channels they make in the foam to hand insert the roof wiring harness into. You'll have to run over the roof.
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Randy - Manhattan, Kansas
2015 Vista 27N
2020 Ford Escape Hybrid
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10-26-2018, 02:40 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cleveland, Oh
Posts: 121
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Last time I had to mess with my coax, I contacted winnebago support with model and serial number and asked them for a drawing of the roof. They sent me a drawing that shows the roof construction including all pathways. Most of the time when a cable hangs up when pulling, whether roof or floor, When it was built the wire was taped to other wires and the multiple wires will stop you from pulling the single wire. Parts of the bundle may be going somewhere else . Been there done that, had to re-route.
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10-26-2018, 08:59 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 10
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I kind of figured that, would have been nice to just snake it, but lay on roof is easy, maybe cover with eternabond, or just tack down with the goop stuff. Might be able to let it enter at Sat feed when I open that up.
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10-26-2018, 11:25 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cleveland, Oh
Posts: 121
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Billjolene, Just as a note, On mine the roof layout that I received from winnebago for my coach showed a straight line run. I was able to use a regular wire snake to pull my coax through. The antenna coax went straight from the antenna to the front top passenger side compartment where all the audio/visual components were. My antenna is on the passenger side So I guess I was lucky.
Good Hunting
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Bill: 2007 Sightseer 35J Ford V10
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10-26-2018, 11:30 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 10
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were you able to snake through at the base of the antenna where coax goes through or did you have to pull antenna off?
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10-27-2018, 03:42 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: bel air, md
Posts: 143
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My reception was bad, so I pulled the antenna base off and ripped off the part of the roof under it, because it was really glued down tight. Under it was a coax connecter which I couldn't pull up thru the hole in the base when it was screwed down, and there plenty of coax under it. I just put a new connecter on it and it was good.
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10-27-2018, 08:21 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spring Branch, TX
Posts: 7,780
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You might consider installing a new TV antenna on the roof to replace the crank up system. Like the King Black Jack or Winegard Razor. Then you could place it wherever you want and run new wiring. Just a suggestion.
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2017 Winnebago Adventurer 37F
2016 Lincoln MKX Toad
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10-27-2018, 08:27 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 10
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Been considering that, the crackup is really loose on the gearing.
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10-27-2018, 09:38 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cleveland, Oh
Posts: 121
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I had to pull antenna off to feed the new wire. I upgraded the wire to RG6, the original was RG59.
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Bill: 2007 Sightseer 35J Ford V10
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10-27-2018, 04:20 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 241
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What is an OTA connector? And where do you plan on locating your taigater? The Jack king antenna nice. Easy to find the right direction and no more cranking up and down. There is probably a barrel connector under the plate of your batwing antenna that can cause poor reception.
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Mike S.E. Ohio 2002 Adventure 35u flat tow a 2016 Equinox. Also a 2018 Pleasureway XLMB
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10-27-2018, 07:58 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 10
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OTA. Over The Air. There is no connection to batwing, coax was broken.
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11-01-2018, 01:21 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: DeLand, FL
Posts: 64
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If you look to replace the antenna and consider the jack king, one word of caution. If you take your motorhome anywhere that trees could "drag" the top, the life expectancy is about 5 or 6 trips under that condition. I have seen them snapped off and I had the experience of tree limbs turning the antenna past its stop and it continued to turn around. Eventually that broke the internal coax which is only 1/8" in diameter. It is almost impossible to repair. I replaced it with a Razor. So far that has worked well, but there were some issues with early production. I had to replace mine once, but Winegard was great to work with. They sent me one at no charge and the replacement took about 10 minutes. They wanted the old one back, but they paid shipping. Good customer service.
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