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02-13-2019, 09:06 AM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Feb 2019
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Electrical problem
Last season I bought a 97 Vectra. Previous owner kept it at his house and plugged in 24-7, which I could not do. RV put in storage in late October. After a few weeks, it wouldn't start without booster. Last weekend, replaced the coach and engine batteries. Engine started immediately but coach has no power to anything. Have rechecked wiring and its correct. Circuit breakers all on. I'm obviously a novice. Any help or suggestions?
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02-13-2019, 04:34 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Someone probably has pressed your house battery disconnect switch to turn off your house batteries.
If your Vectra is anything like my 2006 Journey (both diesel pushers) look for a switch on the dash board with a label with "battery" on it. My rocker switch is labeled "AUX Battery".
I am assuming you are talking about 12V DC power to your lights, roof vent fans, etc and not the 120V AC to your microwave.
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02-13-2019, 04:38 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Also look back by the engine and see if there is a "chassis battery" disconnect switch. It may be a round switch a little larger in diameter than a soup can or can of tomatoes.
This switch can be turned off to keep the engine and whatever else is connected to the battery, from draining the battery while in storage.
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02-13-2019, 10:33 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Full time RV'er
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It's much less expensive to just disconnect the grounds from your sets of batteries when you put the rig in storage, even if just for a week. Saves your batteries. I keep a wrench and a set of gloves in the battery compartment just for that. It's hard to get at the 6 volt house battery ground so I just remove the jumper between them. Takes less then 5 minutes to disconnect or reconnect them.
Many RVs over many decades have been made with the chassis battery system sort of separate from the house as it's cheaper for the manufacturer. They often don't install any stay charged circuit for it for when it's just sitting like at a RV park (some brands do though). And slowly over time the chassis batteries die. Especially if you listen to the dash radio. The house batts will be charged with the converter or converter/inverter device but typically there's nothing for the chassis batts.
Because of that, most people put in a Trik-L-Start (or Amp-L-Start for large battery banks) which take a bit of that charge voltage/current for the house batts and sends it to the chassis batts, or you can wire in a 2.5 amp Float charger ($25) that runs off 120V so they're kept charged when you're staying at RV parks, plugged in at home, or in a storage yard with power.
When you're driving, both sets of batteries are charged by the alternator.
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02-14-2019, 02:49 AM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Feb 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by al1florida
Also look back by the engine and see if there is a "chassis battery" disconnect switch. It may be a round switch a little larger in diameter than a soup can or can of tomatoes.
This switch can be turned off to keep the engine and whatever else is connected to the battery, from draining the battery while in storage.
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I don't have any power in the coach. No lights, microwave, etc. Nothing works, no power to even start the generator, even when the engine is running.
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02-14-2019, 08:07 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Full time RV'er
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The batteries wouldn't have any effect on the MW or any of the 120 volt outlets or appliances (AC). But they would on the house lights (12V).
As mentioned earlier there is normally a switch on the dash, or in the entrance way, labeled AUX or BATT or similar. This momentary switch would actuate a large relay down in the battery compartment that routes power from the house batteries to the house.
But if it sat for a while after you installed new house batts without being plugged into power, then those might be dead again already. Though driving it should have recharged them. Best to get a meter and measure the voltage on them. If you're plugged into shore power, then they should be charged and the problem is bound to be that main switch.
Keep plugging away at it. It's gotta be something simple. These big rigs don't often have something major fail that supplies voltage to the house. They can, but often don't.
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02-15-2019, 03:42 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 992
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtjr1944
Last season I bought a 97 Vectra. Previous owner kept it at his house and plugged in 24-7, which I could not do. RV put in storage in late October. After a few weeks, it wouldn't start without booster. Last weekend, replaced the coach and engine batteries. Engine started immediately but coach has no power to anything. Have rechecked wiring and its correct. Circuit breakers all on. I'm obviously a novice. Any help or suggestions?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtjr1944
I don't have any power in the coach. No lights, microwave, etc. Nothing works, no power to even start the generator, even when the engine is running.
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Did you have someone replace the batteries or did you do it yourself?
After you replaced the house (coach) batteries did any of your lights work?
Did you check the battery disconnect momentary switch?
It really sounds like you have 2 problems and they are not related
As Jim wrote in his reply, the 120V and 12V systems are separate. Your outlets and microwave should work even if you don't have a battery connected. Your air conditioner probably won't work because the thermostat requires 12V to operate.
You need to take a multi meter and start checking 12V power at the house battery then work forward. Pretty much the same with 120V, start at the shore power connector and work toward the RV. If you don't have a multi meter you can buy one at any big box store for under $20.
Here is a link to the Winnebago web site to download a wiring diagram for your RV: https://winnebagoind.com/diagram/Wiring.htm
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02-20-2019, 10:43 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 7
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I also have a 97 Vectra, it’s the battery switch on the left side of the steering wheel on the dashboard this also has to be on to run your generator and all 12 V lighting and accessories I turn mine off when in storage. And I have a solar panel the roof That keeps my batteries topped off.
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04-12-2019, 10:38 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 12
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Did you get this resolved. I am having same issue in my 96 vectra. I have shore power but no 12v.
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04-13-2019, 05:12 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 40Below
Did you get this resolved. I am having same issue in my 96 vectra. I have shore power but no 12v.
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You should have a switch on the main power control panel in your RV to display the house and chassis (engine) batteries. What voltages are displayed?
BTW it is better to start a new topic and also to supply details on what let up to your RV not having any 12V.
Details are very important, otherwise you are kind of saying "It broke, what is wrong?"
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04-13-2019, 09:28 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 12
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Thanks. I’ll start a new thread. Thanks!
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04-14-2019, 11:17 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2018
Location: La Quinta
Posts: 5
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My AUX battery on off switch is to the left of the entry stairs. On my 2005 sun cruiser. It’s a rocker switch, push down to activate house batteries. You should be able to start your generator and operate your 12v lights, radio, and things. My chassis battery was going dead or didn’t have enough power so I got an ample start that trickle charges off the house batteries. It even works when the AUX switch for the house batteries is turned off. Ideally run at least 120 to the coach when in storage. If you can’t, pull the negatives off. For shorter storage, turn off your house batteries, my radio has a switch for house or chassis battery. Switch to house in storage, it won’t get any power to drain. Ideally one should get a solar panel with a power manager that will operate a battery tender that keeps all the batteries charged separate from the power manager in the coach.
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04-15-2019, 12:52 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 12
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Thank you. I’m still pretty green to the rv life. But getting broke in pretty good. Lol.
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