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04-08-2012, 11:38 AM
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Winnebago Owner
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Automatic Transfer Switch (ATS)
Hello all!
Getting ready to pick up a 2006 Adventurer 38J upgraded to 50A service. I've downloaded a lot of manuals including the Chassis and full wiring diagrams. WHEW! And I thought my Piper Archer 4 seat plane was complex. LOL
OK...
I am not finding anything to tell me specifically what model/make of ATS I have and the rig is 2.5 hours aways from me. I am wondering if anyone knows of a resource that can help me find that info before I call my sale person on Monday.
While on the subject...
Assuming the ATS doesn't have an kind of surge protection, any recommendations on portable vs direct connect? How about brands?
Warning...I put the NEW in NEWBIE! Just internet smart enough to be stupid.
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04-08-2012, 01:46 PM
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Winnebago Master
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Winnebago doesn't include surge protection. Unless the previous owner added one, it doesn't have one. I would recommend the Progressive Industries EMS-LCHW50C. It probably has the Parallax ATS-50 transfer switch.
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04-08-2012, 06:12 PM
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Winnebago Owner
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Originally Posted by John Hilley
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It looks like from the latest WIT Club mag that they are now putting the TRC Surge Guard on and if it weren't for that add...I wouldn't have even known to ask the question. LOL Yes, it does look like a rather new addition to the higher end rigs.
Any thoughts on hard wired vs. portable?
THANKS!!!
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2006 DSDP 4320, Spartan MM IFS, 2013 CR-V, Blue Ox Avail, SMI AF1, Samsung 197R Refer.
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04-08-2012, 07:59 PM
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Winnebago Master
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Hard wire for sure.
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04-09-2012, 07:06 AM
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Winnebago Owner
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04-09-2012, 08:31 AM
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Winnebago Master
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Originally Posted by Dave78Chief
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How do you find the parts list keyed to a specific year and model?
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1999 Winnebago Brave 35C Handicap Equipped
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1999 Jeep Cherokee & 1991 Jeep Wrangler Renegade
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04-09-2012, 09:12 AM
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Winnebago Master
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Start from here: Manuals & Diagrams and follow through the links. If you go here: Service Parts Lists (accessed by selecting 'Parts Catalog' and then 'Service Parts Lists' in the oval on the center left of the page) you can enter your Winnebago Serial Number and get the as-built parts list for your particular coach.
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04-09-2012, 10:51 AM
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Winnebago Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KIX
Hard wire for sure.
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The fire code enforcers that inspect my home base camp ground have written up anything that has a pig tail where the second plug is not protected from rain. That rules out a portable EMS and also requires I use a 50A to 30A converter block without a pig tail. With that in mind, hardwire seems best. Unless I hear something to change my mind I plan to go with:
Progressive Industries 50 amp Hardwire Surge Protector EMS-HW50C at the power station
Progressive Energy Management System 240Volt / 50Amp Hardwired w/ Remote Display
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Progressive Industries Remote Display in the coach
http://www.rvupgradestore.com/Progressive-Ind-Remote-Display-useEMSHW-seriesonly-p/ems-rds.htm
Prices at RVupgrades look good and they have a very good rating on eBay too. Called them up and they can get it delivered to my dealer by Wednesday to have it installed before I pick up my MH on Friday.
I considered the Surge Guard ATS which is cheaper and puts it all in one box but the specs on the PI unites were a bit better and having the remote readout keeps me informed without going outside the coach. To get those features in a SG ATS was a bit more overall.
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04-09-2012, 11:03 AM
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Winnebago Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbeierl
Start from here: Manuals & Diagrams and follow through the links. If you go here: Service Parts Lists (accessed by selecting 'Parts Catalog' and then 'Service Parts Lists' in the oval on the center left of the page) you can enter your Winnebago Serial Number and get the as-built parts list for your particular coach.
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AWESOME! Got it.
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Don, Sandee & GSD Zeus. Gardian for GSDs Gunny (7/11/15) & Thor (5/5/15)
2006 DSDP 4320, Spartan MM IFS, 2013 CR-V, Blue Ox Avail, SMI AF1, Samsung 197R Refer.
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04-09-2012, 11:04 AM
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Winnebago Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave78Chief
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GREAT JOB! Thanks!
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2006 DSDP 4320, Spartan MM IFS, 2013 CR-V, Blue Ox Avail, SMI AF1, Samsung 197R Refer.
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04-09-2012, 03:02 PM
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Winnie-Wise
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You must do as the fire inspectors say.
But just for reference, I have used the external 50a TRC surge protector for two very wet Seattle winters. The only 'rain' protection was the plastic lock that surrounds the plug connection. And we have had lots of rain. No problems at all.
I chose the external device, because if the unit took a big hit, and decided to smoke and burn, I didn't want that going on inside my electrical compartment. Just a personal choice, the hardwired units are very good, I am sure.
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04-09-2012, 04:05 PM
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Winnebago Master
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The way I do my 50 to 30 amp conversion would get you by the fire inspectors. I use the 50/30 adapter on the end of the 50 amp cable which I leave coiled up in the basement compartment and then use a 25' 30 amp extension cable to connect to the pedestal.
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1999 Winnebago Brave 35C Handicap Equipped
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1999 Jeep Cherokee & 1991 Jeep Wrangler Renegade
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