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04-20-2021, 06:13 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Choosing a Larger Toad
I have a 2014 Ford Edge, and my wife wants a bigger dingy to tow with more room. We are having a difficult time finding one because it seems the 20 and 21 models have seemed to have changed the rules about towing, and we are getting conflicting information from the salesmen. One consideration is a 19 Ford Explorer. One salesman said we have to have the V6 Ecoboost engine. Does anyone have one of these Fords that could help me?
We have also considered a GMC Acadia or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Any recommendations along these brands?
Thanks for any comments.
Jerry
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04-20-2021, 09:06 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 186
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2020 Winnebago Vista 29V
San Francisco Bay Area
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04-21-2021, 09:18 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spring Branch, TX
Posts: 7,828
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First... Never trust a car salesman's statements about flat towing (or just about anything). And this is both ways - whether they say a model is flat towable or not flat towable.
Both Motorhome Magizine (GoodSam) and FMCA put out Toad guides. And they are a good place to see what options are needed to make a vehicle flat towable or even what options to avoid as well.
Chevy seems to have the widest range of SUVs that are all flat towable.
The Jeep Cheokee is probably the number one Toad brand out there since the Honda CRV stopped being towable in 2015. But with Jeeps you have to be sure you have the correct 4-wheel drive equipped model.
The new Lincoln Nautilus is flat-towable and a pretty nice vehicle at that. Though expensive. I'm not sure it's much larger than the Ford Edge.
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2017 Winnebago Adventurer 37F
2016 Lincoln MKX Toad
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04-21-2021, 09:47 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 5 miles south of Lakeville, Mn
Posts: 517
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Not sure about the newer models but our 2015 Explorer is a great toad. We've towed it all over the country four down. In my opinion I don't want to tow a new car as it gets dinged here and there, plus it really gets dirty.
Our old Ford is perfect for the job.
and no to eco boost. We don't want or have it.
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Jim and Carol Cooper with Oreo the Kitty
FAA ATC ret, VFW, Legion, VVA, NRA
2012 Journey 36M, Cummins 360hp, 2015 Ford Explorer Blue Ox, AF1
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04-21-2021, 01:22 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Spring Branch, TX
Posts: 7,828
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Originally Posted by Cooperhawk
and no to eco boost. We don't want or have it.
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We had two Ford Expedition ELs. We used them to tow a Travel Trailer. First, was a V8 the second was the EcoBoost V6. We LOVED our EcoBoost and it towed much better than the V8.
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2017 Winnebago Adventurer 37F
2016 Lincoln MKX Toad
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04-25-2021, 04:02 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Lexington County, South Carolina
Posts: 65
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Check out motorhome.com for guidance.
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04-25-2021, 04:18 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 79
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We are towing a 2014 Ford Explorer 6 passenger. We love it. It's all about the transmission! The salesmen have no clue!
Nor do the service people know what drains the battery while the car is in tow mode. Just get the trickle charger included in your light/brake connection and don't expect an answer.
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'02 FR Georgetown 325D
'95 Damon Hornet 305
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04-25-2021, 04:22 PM
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Dives2Little
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: High Desert of New Mexico
Posts: 33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryH
I have a 2014 Ford Edge, and my wife wants a bigger dingy to tow with more room. We are having a difficult time finding one because it seems the 20 and 21 models have seemed to have changed the rules about towing, and we are getting conflicting information from the salesmen. One consideration is a 19 Ford Explorer. One salesman said we have to have the V6 Ecoboost engine. Does anyone have one of these Fords that could help me?
We have also considered a GMC Acadia or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Any recommendations along these brands?
Thanks for any comments.
Jerry
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I tow a '13 F-150 with the EcoBoost and love it! Mileage is pretty good and the "pep" is dramatic. When the 2 turbos kick in we go from 100 (and some) horsepower to 350. Ours is a two wheel drive so we we have to use a driveline disconnect, but that is a minor inconvenience and avoids doing the "hokey-pokey" to disengage the transmission.
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(Plus Max, Minnie, and Midget)
2016 Ellipse 42QD/2015 F-150 Eco Boost 4X2 Dinghy
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04-25-2021, 05:16 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Posts: 7
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Here are links to Fords towing guides including toads from the Ford Fleet website. They are the best resource for Ford info. Most sales personnel unfortunately are the worst resource.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/
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Ken & Jeanne
2017 Winnebago Cambria 30J
2012 Jeep Wrangler
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04-25-2021, 06:33 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Manhattan, Kansas USA
Posts: 1,318
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I got a 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid AWD, SE version, for about $ 26,000. Only the Escape Hybrid can be flat towed of all the current Escapes. Plenty of power, great gas mileage (38 mpg combined), great range ( over 500 miles ). Put on a Blue Ox Baseplate and reused my Blue Ox Patriot Toad Brake Assistant.
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2015 Vista 27N
2020 Ford Escape Hybrid
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04-25-2021, 07:00 PM
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blubugger
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryH
I have a 2014 Ford Edge, and my wife wants a bigger dingy to tow with more room. We are having a difficult time finding one because it seems the 20 and 21 models have seemed to have changed the rules about towing, and we are getting conflicting information from the salesmen. One consideration is a 19 Ford Explorer. One salesman said we have to have the V6 Ecoboost engine. Does anyone have one of these Fords that could help me?
We have also considered a GMC Acadia or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Any recommendations along these brands?
Thanks for any comments.
Jerry
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Wait a minute, I thought 'Toad' or dingy was the vehicle that is towed behind the RV.....why are we talking about 4x4 SUVs etc? You want something bigger to whip around the rear end and get around town when you get there.
I would think the lightest, towable vehicle, flat would be a. The most economical and b. The easiest to tow and c. The safest.
I am missing something here? Are not Toads vehiclesbeing towed behind the RV? I would think you would want the lightest, maneuverable vehicle behind.
However, if you are trailering a trailer (say under 5000#) the Ecoboost twin turbo Explorer is great. No hesitation, reasonable gas mileage...(not 20mpg when towing) but adequate. Another possibility is the Toyota 4-Runner.....getting similar miles per gallon on the non-turbo version. Both of these vehicles get reasonable mpg but going at it in different ways.
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04-25-2021, 07:53 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
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We TOAD a 2020 Ford Ranger, has to be 4X4 model. Love it.
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04-26-2021, 08:16 AM
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Nailbender
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Minnesota
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We tow a Jeep Grand Cherokee and it works great but it has 4 wheel drive with a Quadra-Trac II transfer case which they don't all have
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2018 Grand Cherokee Toad
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04-26-2021, 10:44 AM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryH
I have a 2014 Ford Edge, and my wife wants a bigger dingy to tow with more room. We are having a difficult time finding one because it seems the 20 and 21 models have seemed to have changed the rules about towing, and we are getting conflicting information from the salesmen. One consideration is a 19 Ford Explorer. One salesman said we have to have the V6 Ecoboost engine. Does anyone have one of these Fords that could help me?
We have also considered a GMC Acadia or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Any recommendations along these brands?
Thanks for any comments.
Jerry
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We moved from a 2012 Ford Edge to a 2020 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The Edge is more "car like" and the Grand Cherokee is more "truck like" which I prefer. Importantly I would not consider the Grand Cherokee bigger other than a couple of inches in overall height and maybe a couple more inches in storage behind the seats. A big advantage to the Grand Cherokee is the ability to disengage the transfer case for towing.
I hope that this helps!
Don
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2009 Foretravel Nimbus XT 38', 2012 Ford Edge toad
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04-26-2021, 11:55 AM
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Just Ama
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Casa Grande, Arizona
Posts: 56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JerryH
I have a 2014 Ford Edge, and my wife wants a bigger dingy to tow with more room. We are having a difficult time finding one because it seems the 20 and 21 models have seemed to have changed the rules about towing, and we are getting conflicting information from the salesmen. One consideration is a 19 Ford Explorer. One salesman said we have to have the V6 Ecoboost engine. Does anyone have one of these Fords that could help me?
We have also considered a GMC Acadia or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Any recommendations along these brands?
Thanks for any comments.
Jerry
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We have a 2018 Ford Explorer and love it. Tows 4 wheels down, and we have the braking system installed so it's an easy hook up, flip the brake switch and we're set to go.. and with 3rd row seating (which we've never used) there is plenty of room inside for stuff and people.
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Doug and Jayne
Otherwise known as "Ama" and "Papa"
To two little grandsons
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04-26-2021, 02:44 PM
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blubugger
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Albuquerque
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Well, I must say 'mea culpa' for my shortcomings! What some folks use as a Toad, some of us simpler folks use to tow. So, now that I am educated in 'tow' vs Toad....I must say that in our case we use a 2015 FoExplorer Sport to tow a smaller Micro Minnie 2106ds. And that it does very well.
And since I now have seen vehicles of that size (or larger) as a Toad...behind a larger tow vehicle, I have seen the light!
Keeping things simple may work for some of us RVers, but some people do tow vehicles like full sized pickups, Suburbans or whatever have you.
Enjoy the trip!
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04-28-2021, 02:12 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Apr 2020
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We have a 2019 Ford Ranger 4x4 and it flat tows great behind our 2018 Minnie-Winnie 31ft. Approximately 4100 lbs. dry weight.
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05-01-2021, 08:14 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 5 miles south of Lakeville, Mn
Posts: 517
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AzLady
and with 3rd row seating (which we've never used) there is plenty of room inside for stuff and people.
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We also have the third row seating but the only time we use it is with Grandchildren. They love it. Otherwise it's set flat for lots of hauling area.
We did put six adults in there once. Pretty tight.
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FAA ATC ret, VFW, Legion, VVA, NRA
2012 Journey 36M, Cummins 360hp, 2015 Ford Explorer Blue Ox, AF1
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