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07-27-2018, 08:38 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 242
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Working on a new awning....
The 2002 awning had 'retired' years prior ..crackly, old plastic crapus. So I got some new plastic crapus - a mesh instead.
What a PITA to put it on by yourself! I had to rig block-and-tackle to create an invisible helper on the other end at the top. (thank's YouTube for the instructions!) I also did not take enough windings to allow it to fully retract ...no worries, it's got to come off.
I knew a the start, the selvedge ends were rolling up like a window shade. I sewed some 3" tape to see if I could settle it down, to no effect. There was no way to control the stretch. It may be one reason you see this mesh in those new 'tension awnings' that look like triangles suspended by tightropes.
Luckily, sort of, this piece they sent had cuts in it so they had to send me a new one. I can learn on this one and then hopefully make one that did not look like it got pulled out of a Mumbai landfill.
Jim
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07-27-2018, 08:40 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 242
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....'not sure the pics loaded?! (Ah.. I 'chose' but did not upload)
Jim
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07-27-2018, 10:28 AM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 881
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Looks good from here, Jim.
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07-27-2018, 02:42 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
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Thanks, Sarah. Houston is about the right distance to see this at the moment... I have learned a lot. Clearly, it would be 100% easier with more predictable results if started with fabric that is stable X & Y. I just don't much like 50's era tablecloth material.
I thought an internal radius would take out some of the cupping, but the mesh still loosens up when you cut it. I used a small torch to sear the edges, but they are still loose. Perhaps sewing a narrow tape along the cut line before cutting would reduce it. Certainly, a leech or foot line sailmakers use to keep sails from flapping would do it but overly complicated.
I still like the concept. I have some black mesh that is a little stiffer, but this casts a nice blue light ..and you can look up*. I am waiting for a storm cell lurking in the area to see how it handles the wind/rain.
Jim
*and see the trees in the picture
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07-27-2018, 03:23 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 881
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A man with a plan. I like it. (Are you an engineer?? )
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07-29-2018, 12:51 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 242
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Nice of you to think that, Sarah... I was qualified to load boxcars with 12x12 floor tile (likely asbestos!) with a crew of misfits in 1961 and quickly went off to the Army —as an alternative to that and/or getting a Ph.D. in Physics. I am a fiddler - everything is a potential project.
Jim
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07-31-2018, 03:00 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
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v2. ...I wanted to make it a trapezoid (wider at the top than bottom) to take advantage that my upper track runs full length above the support arms. ...failing to consider that I need to wind it on the smaller bar. Being wide at the top is not helpful. ..another, 'lesson learned'.
I used a different mesh this time, one that appears far more open than the prior. Most people would think it still too bright under the tarp ...but, when you measure the lumens* outside -then underneath- there is an 80% reduction, even tho' it does not seem it.
At least these are getting easier to make.... By the time I'm proficient, I won't need the knowledge.
Jim
*there's a nice little app 'Light Meter' that gives you raw numbers not adjustments for old cameras.
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07-31-2018, 03:36 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Houston TX
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07-31-2018, 07:42 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 81
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Looking good. The wife and I replaced the awning on our previous camper when it got old. We bought the replacement awning material on eBay. It was shockingly cheap, especially when you consider the price dealerships charge.
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08-01-2018, 11:49 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
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Ya, Rod... I sorta understand dealer prices. I suspect there are a lot of folks in coaches a good bit younger than myself for whom doing what you did would be daunting. ...and, the other problem is that RV shops are like swimming pool dealers in Indiana. Their season is short and yet they have to carry both knowledge, muscle and real estate on their books for 12 months.
...but, maybe I'm getting like them. I put in our last dishwasher - this time I watched a tech take 3hrs to install our new KA. AND - (once I researched the right dealer and brands) I sent my wife alone to pick out the one she liked. ...'getting old. Cheers.
Jim
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08-03-2018, 01:12 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 242
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Round #..? I've made another blue one. Better, but still unable to control those side edges. It could have also been a tick wider.
What's interesting about the blue vs black is the nice glow you get. My wife thinks the blue is wrong against the rest of the colors on the coach, but it is very pleasant. I'd think Red would simply 'feel' hot.
I am also working on a side shade. (this is scrap cloth) I have been going to Assateaque Ntl. Seashore surfing for the last 30yrs and walk thru the campers to get to my favorite spot. I am paying more attention these days but can tell you it is nearly as hot there at 4pm as Noon and a conventional overhead awning does not help in many of the spots I see.
Jim
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08-03-2018, 02:49 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Houston TX
Posts: 881
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Nice. But if the wife doesn't like the blue... you know what you gotta do.
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08-04-2018, 10:31 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 242
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Naaa' Sarah. I'm no 'Lord of the Manor' ...but, she doesn't really care. This is my toy. The inside and the first 100' around the house is where she has her defensive perimeters established. Cheers.
Jim
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08-07-2018, 12:26 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Salisbury, Maryland
Posts: 242
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There's a fair bit of light allowed thru the mesh as can be seen in the blue glow on the coach, but I was concerned that IR (heat) rays were also getting thru... Does not seem so/much.
It's hot/humid, and mostly sunny here today with nearly zero wind. The ambient temp at 2 pm is 96f. (35.5c) The ground outside the shaded area measured 106.7f (32.2c) ..under the awning: 89.9f (32.2c)
I added a drape with the extra cloth from the roll. It cannot be left on, as the awning is already quite thick as it reaches the top.
Jim
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08-15-2018, 10:51 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 31
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I've installed a few awnings always using the RV store fabric. You have much more patience than I have for sure. If it were me I'd ask my wife what color and what material then I'd go and install it, Job done!
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