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Old 06-16-2007, 03:19 AM   #3
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Its interesting that sales rose..
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From my experince of purchasing a new 2005 Voyage, I would say QUALITY CONTROL is the reason for any decline. I would not buy another new Winnebago product!
I would consider a used Winne, if I could determine all the production defects had been repaired.
A new Winnebago coupled with a Workhorse chassis, forget it!
Yep, I been to several dealers and forest city and I did not enjoy it.
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I think they build a good product and don't have as many production gigs as some other manufacturers.
I noticed the writer of the news story points out that there is a set aside of $900,000. for executive bonus's. If the company were to distribute those funds out to those who bust their butts to build the good product, the gig rate might go down.
I am not a Stock Holder at this time, but if I were, I would be vocal regarding distributions of earned profits to those who earn the profits.
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Old 06-16-2007, 06:38 AM   #6
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I like my Winnebago. I've experienced few problems caused by poor workmanship.

I don't believe the guy with the caulking gun on the roof has a vested interest in the success of the company but at least it's out of sight. It would be SOOOO simple to keep the caulking gun from drizzling between caulking points. Other than that, the unit is tops including the chassis.
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The Winnebago CEO's optimistic outlook may just be that, optimistic. There are rumors of delays in 2008 diesel pusher production due to lack of Freightliner chassis (which in turn is due to lack of new emissions engines). If so then Winnebago would potentially be facing lower revenues in the next couple of quarters and possibly furloughs for production workers.

The silver lining is the lack of new diesel coaches will affect the whole industry. This could create a pent up demand which could boost sales later in the year.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vicsryd:
The silver lining is the lack of new diesel coaches will affect the whole industry. This could create a pent up demand which could boost sales later in the year. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


??? Hummm,,, Driving up the good pusher used market??
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Old 06-23-2007, 06:13 AM   #9
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RON55:
From my experince of purchasing a new 2005 Voyage, I would say QUALITY CONTROL is the reason for any decline. I would not buy another new Winnebago product!
I would consider a used Winne, if I could determine all the production defects had been repaired.
A new Winnebago coupled with a Workhorse chassis, forget it!
Yep, I been to several dealers and forest city and I did not enjoy it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

RON55;

Based on my experience with our Sightseer, I'd have to agree with you. I've been told that mine is not the norm and that I've had 'bad luck', but I don't see it that way.

Just this week I posted here about a long-term water leak that turned out to be a cracked fitting behind the shower, finally breaking while on city water and making a huge mess during our vacation at Disneyland. Sure, it was only a $7.00 part but really put a damper on the vacation and lost half a day fixing it myself. Or I could have waited until I got back home and taken it to the Winnebago dealer that told me twice before that they'd fixed it. That would have meant no water for four days, not even using the 12v pump. Great...

This is my first Winnebago product after three Fleetwood products; I bought into the Winnebago quality sales pitch. A lot of people make fun of the quality of Fleetwood products but we NEVER had any of the problems that we've had with the Sightseer. Some have suggested it's because the Sightseer MH is entry level but if that's the case, Winnebago has sure convinced me that when I upgrade, I'd be silly not to go to another brand. And that cheesy $7.00 part? (Camping World retail; probably cost Winnebago $1.00.) What do you think they use on that $180k MH?

That Workhorse chassis that is surperior to Ford? Not so sure of that either... going down and back on Interstate 5, I can say we took the same beating suspension-wise as our old 1995 Flair on a Ford chassis. We even had numerous wood-plugs pop out at us from the T.V. area. An easy fix but just an example of how inadequate the suspension is... lot's of dash squeeking and popping, front T.V. banging around, side windows chirping away with wind noise driving at more than 40 mph, entry door that squeeks and rattles away on all but the smoothest roads, etc. No car manufacturer would survive based on the quality that we all seem to accept on RV's, and at a far higher cost.

Maybe if I finally have a run of 'good luck' I'll feel differently over time, I'm just not sure that is ever going to happen... unfortunately, it's turned into a game of 'let's go camping and guess what is going to break this time'.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vicsryd:
The silver lining is the lack of new diesel coaches will affect the whole industry. This could create a pent up demand which could boost sales later in the year. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Just a side note:

Workhorse is building CAT C7 powered R-Series 2008 emission compliant powered RDP chassis at the moment and they appear to be moving forward with their plans to continue providing the RV Industry with its innovative brand of RDP chassis.

The new chassis is being built using 210,000 sq ft of leased space at the Roadmaster plant in Elkhart, IN.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RON55:
From my experience of purchasing a new 2005 Voyage, I would say QUALITY CONTROL is the reason for any decline. I would not buy another new Winnebago product! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>RON55, I would buy a new Winnebago product. It's regrettable at times to have to generate a repair hit list a couple of dozens of lines deep however that said few if any manufacturers provide us with perfect RV products.

It's not difficult to find high 6 digit value motorhomes appear to be constantly in need of one repair or another.

WGO will surely recover from this hiccup in their market price and it will most likely do so better than most other manufacturers because they control everything about their own destiny in-house. Winnebago Industries is a most amazing operation.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DriVer:

RON55, I would buy a new Winnebago product. It's regrettable at times to have to generate a repair hit list a couple of dozens of lines deep however that said few if any manufacturers provide us with perfect RV products.

It's not difficult to find high 6 digit value motorhomes appear to be constantly in need of one repair or another. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And therein lies the problem: we might spend $90k to over $300k and accept that we will have problems. New cars costing as little as $16k might have all inclusive three or four year warranties; some vehicles have mechanical warranties up to 100,000 miles. RV's? One year bumper to bumper is typical... you might drive an average car 10k to 25k miles a year; a MH, no where near that.

So why such as short warranty period on RV's... because the manufacturer knows all too well about their build quality!

Can you imagine spending even $50k on a Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, Cadillac, etc. and getting the same build quality as a typical MH at two to three times the cost? Not meaning to pick on Hyundai owners, but their JD Powers Customer Satisfaction Rating would be far higher than that of a typical RV owner.

And the sad thing is when you buy a new RV, you usually don't pick it up for two to three days after buying it, just so they can make sure it's ready... and yet we all have a laundry list of things that need to be repaired after just the first trip out!

Maybe other states are different, but California has no Lemon Law regarding RV's... I now know why the RV industry fights all efforts to put that law into effect in California...
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Yep Richard, couldn't have said it better. In fact I did say it about 3 years ago. I just don't understand why any one buying a motor Home of any brand should have to put up with all the problems that they do have. I agree with you 100 percent.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Richard 34.5A:
So why such as short warranty period on RV's... because the manufacturer knows all too well about their build quality!... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>WCC's 3 year 36,000 mile bumper to bumper and their 5 year 100,000 mile power train warranty and the 5 year 200,000 mile warranty on the Allison tells me that they know full well about the quality of their chassis.

I believe WGO has increased their warranty to an 18 month bumper to bumper warranty and most often you can get things repaired under good will.

WGO field service teams that attend major rallies can and will repair as many as a half-dozen items for free even if outside of the warranty period.

You can also go to Forest City and if needed you can have almost that many or more items fixed under good will.

I have fixed a few items on my motorhome and I think that every motorhome owner should be able to repair small things on their own.

My brand new house only had a 1 year warranty. Out of warranty - my builder replaced all the metal wrap on my screen room out as a good will gesture because I had some metallurgical corrosion in the cladding that covered the wooden structure.

People are inherently good and I see no evil entities at Winnebago Industries avoiding or waiting for our motorhome's warranties to expire before they pop the cork on the champaign. Into my 5 year of ownership, my motorhome is great and the automotive gear has never ran so well. 59,000 miles and counting.
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