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Old 06-03-2006, 01:46 PM   #15
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I weighed our '04 32' Brave with full fuel, propane, fresh,black and gray water tanks. Obviously no one would ever drive like that.

On second thought, maybe they would...but I digress.

Anyway it came out to 1525 lbs. CCC. The full water tanks account for about 8-900 pounds so we are easily at 2,000 lbs. CCC.

This weight was measured by RVSEF with each individual wheel being weighed simultaneously.

Way good enough for us.
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:41 AM   #16
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The CCC (wet weights INCLUDING people) should be listed on a sheet of weight measurements on the inside of your rear closet....and a reminder that CCC is different than NCC that some are reporting here...

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Old 06-05-2006, 04:53 AM   #17
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrontRangeRVer:
The CCC (wet weights INCLUDING people) should be listed on a sheet of weight measurements on the inside of your rear closet....and a reminder that CCC is different than NCC that some are reporting here.......Mark </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

GREAT point Mark....

My CCC as listed for my 2006 40KD is 4335

Here's what is also on that sheet under the double asterik...

CCC is equal to GVWR MINUS each of the following: UVW,FULL fresh (potable) water weight including water heater,full propane weight and SCWR.Dealer installed equipment and TONGUE WEIGHT will reduce CCC.

ALSO SCWR or Sleeping Capacity is defined as "manufacturers designated number of sleeping positions multiplied by 154 pounds....

It's been a REAL long time since I've weighed 154 pounds....
My KD has a Queen Bed,a Couch sleeper and the booth dinette....Forgetting the booth dinette,but shouldn't the couch be rated for TWO people?
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:03 AM   #18
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rebelsbeach:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrontRangeRVer:
The CCC (wet weights INCLUDING people) should be listed on a sheet of weight measurements on the inside of your rear closet....and a reminder that CCC is different than NCC that some are reporting here.......Mark </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


My KD has a Queen Bed,a Couch sleeper and the booth dinette....Forgetting the booth dinette,but shouldn't the couch be rated for TWO people? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that the manufacturer rates "seating capacity" in the CCC as they install seat belts for those...

Our coach's CCC includes 5 people ....
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That doesn't work either Mark,as I have seat belts on both couches,as well as two in the booth dinette....came that way from the factory.

Your Voyage floorplan even shows seat belts for eight....
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rebelsbeach:
That doesn't work either Mark,as I have seat belts on both couches,as well as two in the booth dinette....came that way from the factory.

Your Voyage floorplan even shows seat belts for eight.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


WOW!!....not sure then.....
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:42 AM   #21
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FrontRangeRVer:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rebelsbeach:
That doesn't work either Mark,as I have seat belts on both couches,as well as two in the booth dinette....came that way from the factory.

Your Voyage floorplan even shows seat belts for eight.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


WOW!!....not sure then..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The 8 seating positions with seat belts are so the 5 passengers can switch their seating positions and still be strapped in, not for 8 passengers to sit in the same seats the entire trip. All but the driver of course!
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Awww shucks.....I'm still trying to get the cruise control to operate the steering,so I can get up and fix me a sandwich!!
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Thats easy, you get you a roll of duct tape- and a long stick, tape the @@@@@&&&&&& Ha Ha
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:25 PM   #24
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Mine is 2600 pounds with 4 people on board.
It's a Sightseer 35N.
Intended to buy one of the more expensive models but were surprised to find that the Sightseer had the highest CCC for a gasser(in 2004 anyway, don't know about now)which we needed since we fulltime.
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:51 PM   #25
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Forgetting the booth dinette,but shouldn't the couch be rated for TWO people? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My 36RD is rated for 5--2 in the bedroom, 2 on the Rest-Easy sofa, 1 on the dinnette.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cbeierl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Forgetting the booth dinette,but shouldn't the couch be rated for TWO people? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

My 36RD is rated for 5--2 in the bedroom, 2 on the Rest-Easy sofa, 1 on the dinnette. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's your CCC?
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Here are the factory numbers for my 36RD (built in Jan/Feb '05):

GAWR Front 10,410
Rear 19,000
GVWR 29,410
UVW 26,487
SCWR (5 people) 770
CCC 1,141
GCWR 39,410
Factory options 472

Actual weights with full LP, Fuel, and Water, empty Black and Grey tanks, driver (~190#), and maybe 50# of toolbox, etc.:

Left Right Axle
Front 5,100 4,980 10,080
Rear 8,980 8,900 17,080
Total 27,960

Adjusting for the driver and the tools, etc. that works out to a CCC of about 920# which is about 221# shy of the labelled CCC.

However, for 2006 Winnebago upped the front GAWR to 12,000 and the rear GAWR to 20,000 by changing the tires (and ONLY the tires). That added 2,590 to the GVWR. I plan to upgrade my tires as well when I replace the current ones.
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