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Old 09-15-2016, 09:08 PM   #15
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Take an 1 and 1/4 inch drill bit center it in the 6mm hole and drill out the opening. Buy a bypass vent and attach it to the drain line you just drilled. All you want to do is enlarge the opening so debris can easily drain out. The bypass vent is closed like holding your index finger and thumb closed. When water and debris goes down the drain tube the end of the bypass opens (yes gravity works) drains and then closes-it is just a rubber hose with a closed end that is opened when draining and closes when empty. I am sure if you look around the underside of your MH you will see bypasses that I have tried to explain. Beats the heck out of warranty scheduling and work.
I've always heard that "drain valve" referred to as a duck bill drain. Mine was sealed closed with debris, a simple pinch on the end-squeezing the ends together cleared it.
The engine damage mentioned in the recall is because a closed drain can allow water into the filter, and on into the engine.
My MH basement air conditioner has the same duck-bill drain for condensate.
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Old 09-18-2016, 07:18 PM   #16
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I am a bit confused with this thread. What are y'all talking about? The pictures were too poor for me to see the problem or the fix. Air filter?
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Old 09-18-2016, 08:14 PM   #17
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On our 2014, 36m only took my dealer (Ben Davis in Auburn In) about 20min. to cut off old one and install new one. Very simple fix.
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Old 09-18-2016, 10:42 PM   #18
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I am a bit confused with this thread. What are y'all talking about? The pictures were too poor for me to see the problem or the fix. Air filter?
Rick,
Agree, the pictures were terrible. Let me try to explain. The air intake on our 2016 Journey is located at the top of the rear cap on the drivers side. The combustion air travels straight down through a duct into a large cylindrical plenum unit that can easily be seen from under the rear of the coach. The part in question is on the bottom of this cylindrical unit. Any water that may enter via the air intake at the top of the rear cap should be "trapped" at the bottom of the cylindrical plenum and simply drain out rather then travel horizontally to the air filter.
From what I can tell from the poor quality pictures, it appears that some coaches did NOT have the duckbill-type drain part but instead had a device similar to a pipe cap with a small hole (say around 1/4") in the bottom.

The cylindrical plenum unit in question is not part of the filter housing. It's upstream of the filter housing.

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Old 09-19-2016, 05:39 AM   #19
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Agree, the pictures were terrible. Let me try to explain. The air intake on our 2016 Journey is located at the top of the rear cap on the drivers side. The combustion air travels straight down through a duct into a large cylindrical plenum unit that can easily be seen from under the rear of the coach. The part in question is on the bottom of this cylindrical unit. Any water that may enter via the air intake at the top of the rear cap should be "trapped" at the bottom of the cylindrical plenum and simply drain out rather then travel horizontally to the air filter.
From what I can tell from the poor quality pictures, it appears that some coaches did NOT have the duckbill-type drain part but instead had a device similar to a pipe cap with a small hole (say around 1/4") in the bottom.

The cylindrical plenum unit in question is not part of the filter housing. It's upstream of the filter housing.

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Thanks Joopy. Great explanation. My air filter is low as is the intake. The duckbill is at the bottom of the filter. It seems my rig is clear of this recall.

Speaking of recalls... Are you involved in the propane hose recall? I have not seen anything official from Winnebago yet. A notice could be in my mail forwarding box.

Happy trails,
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Old 09-19-2016, 06:04 AM   #20
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Freightliner said it was a Winnebago warranty issue.

They wouldn't do it because they are not setup for Winnebago warranty reimbursement. But basically I think it is not a chassis issue but a coach issue.

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Old 09-19-2016, 05:21 PM   #21
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This pdf has very good pictures and explains the function of the Donaldson Filtration Vacuator/VacValve.
I anyone has a pipe cap on the drain, it was put there by someone who knew no better. This Vacuator valve not only expels water, it also expels dirt, dust, bugs,etc. that enter the air intake screen before such things can reach the air filter, which also has one.
The actual air piping from the collector to the air filter is about 6" from the bottom of the collector,foreign items fall to the bottom, and are expelled.

This Winnebago webpage diagram clearly shows the intake plumbing: http://catalog.winnebagoind.com/2015/181487.htm
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This pdf has very good pictures and explains the function of the Donaldson Filtration Vacuator/VacValve.
I anyone has a pipe cap on the drain, it was put there by someone who knew no better. This Vacuator valve not only expels water, it also expels dirt, dust, bugs,etc. that enter the air intake screen before such things can reach the air filter, which also has one.
The actual air piping from the collector to the air filter is about 6" from the bottom of the collector,foreign items fall to the bottom, and are expelled.

This Winnebago webpage diagram clearly shows the intake plumbing: AIR INTAKE 181487-01-000
It took a bit of finger training but I finally got the view to the correct position. The first thing I had to do was install Cortona in my Firefox browser. I see how the air stack drain is arraigned and drain can duck bill. Seems strange that this would be a problem. I don't have this on my 40U. My drain is at the bottom of the Racor filter.

Thanks for the great post. For those who are in need I am certain this will help.

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Thanks Joopy. Great explanation. My air filter is low as is the intake. The duckbill is at the bottom of the filter. It seems my rig is clear of this recall.

Speaking of recalls... Are you involved in the propane hose recall? I have not seen anything official from Winnebago yet. A notice could be in my mail forwarding box.

Happy trails,
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I checked on the propane hose recall some time ago and I was NOT involved. However, Atwood had a recall from last November on their "on-demand" water heater, but neither Winnebago nor Atwood deemed it necessary to notify the owners! I found out about it while searching online for additional info for the on-demand heater. I called Atwood and they confirmed the recall. The recall had to do with some units causing scalding conditions. If anyone reading this has an Atwood on-demand heater, you may want to give them a call.

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Old 10-28-2016, 01:57 PM   #24
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We really should have a "stickie" that provides links to these recall notices. There are three in this thread that might be of interest.
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Old 03-10-2017, 01:57 PM   #25
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Sorry to open a dormant thread, but it may be of interest to some yet. I had received the recall from Winnebago last fall. Contacting my dealer they wanted to bring it in to verify the application. Hey stupid, I looked underneath and it needs the recall.

They advised after verifying the need it would have to be ordered and make a second appointment. Bullshit, four 45 mile trips! I called Donaldson and was referred to a local Donaldson dealer, Ohio Cat. It cost about $9.00 for the part and $5.00 shipping, much cheaper than diesel fuel and my time.

So this is just an FYI, if your dealer like mine gives you grief, you can obtain the part yourself and follow the directions stated above. My part number was P522958 yours may vary.
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