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Old 01-05-2019, 06:13 AM   #1
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Thinking of removing Sofa/Bed

I am thinking of replacing the sofa/bed in my Minnie Winnie 31G with a theater style love seat. The sofa is what it is, a bench that turns into a not vary comfortable bed. We bought a couple foot stools but I find it still hard to get comfortable. I am thinking of this love seat if I do it.

https://www.recpro.com/recpro-charle...ofa-w-console/

Does anyone have any experience doing this? I know there are posts on other boards about this but wanted to get Winnie Owners experiences.
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:38 AM   #2
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We replaced our's with two leather, electric recliners from Macy's. We never even used the sofa after buying our used 2005 MH a year ago. You won't regret it. I think they were in the $600 range each.

My advice is measure, measure, measure. Since your loveseat isn't going to be on a slide, it should be relatively easy to anchor it to your floor. Since mine are on my slide, it took some creativity.

You might want to consider electrically powered alternatives, they sure are nice, especially in finding just the right angle. You can get battery packs that will operate a recliner for about a week of full-time residential use. We operate both of our's off one battery pack.
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:21 PM   #3
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Like BobC's, my install was on a slide out. I too had the 67" width available so the fit was no problem and the love seat I installed is a Lazy Boy (the quality is only so-so, BTW) but I HAD to have a full recliner to sleep on ..... lotsa rods and screws in the old back; and this was the only one available .... at the time anyway. I installed it on a 3/4 inch plywood deck (just a little under 67" wide) which is lag-bolted down to the slide out deck. This "wall hugger" is supposed to work with 4" of clearance behind.......NOT (it required nearly 8", so I slide it a few inches toward the coach centerline for sleep and back again for travel.)

That recpro unit is sure good looking. Bet you will enjoy it. Hopefully someone will respond who has installed it (or a similar one) but I too would wager it will be pretty simple since you aren't mounting it to a slide out. Best of luck; and safe travels..........
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:34 AM   #4
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After 7 years use, (and a cat using her claws on that soft fake leather), we replaced one of our sofas (fold out to bed style) with a Lazy-Boy wall hugger love seat. Set it in place, bolted to the floor, fished the existing seat belts up through the new seat, all was great.

And for some reason the cat just doesn't try to scratch the new love seat.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:02 PM   #5
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I am going to wait until spring when I take the cover off to make my decision. I am real close front to back when the slide is in and I am not sure that it will work.
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Old 01-16-2019, 04:46 PM   #6
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We replaced the sofa bed in our 2003 Minnie WF331C last May with a RecPro recliner loveseat with center console like you are considering. The loveseat comes in 3 pieces, the 2 recliner sections and the center console section, making it easy to get into the coach.

Because the new loveseat was much deeper front to back than the old sofa was, it overhangs the slide deck. I installed a piece of 3/4 inch plywood with sufficient overhang onto the slide deck using the mounting holes and fasteners from the old sofa. I then lag bolted the new loveseat to the plywood (much more difficult than it sounds). I had to set up the recliner and marked lag bolt locations on the plywood. I then removed the unit to drilled the holes. The holes had to be smaller than the lag bolts so they hold when tightened, but large enough so the lag bolts can be started into the holes with your fingers while laying on your stomach reaching up under the reclined loveseat and then tightened with a wrench.

This has been the most worthwhile modification we have done to the coach. Previously there was no comfortable place to sit in the coach. The loveseat is very comfortable and the center console has convenient storage for the TV remote and other loose items. Good luck with yours!
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:23 PM   #7
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Well we did it, bought the RecPro 67" theater seats. It turned out really well. Getting the old sofa out was a piece of cake. I ended up taking the cabinet out that covers the box for the outside tv to give me more room. Again just taking out screws and carried the cabinet out in one piece. I drilled a new hole for one of the seat belts and put a carriage bolt in the old hole. I did have to drop the generator a couple inches to access the underside of the new hole. Mounting the new love seat was a challenge but it is in and not going anywhere. I did not lose much if any room when the slide is in and I can not recline fully but in the end it is well worth it. Also the passenger seat can know recline much more than with the original sofa installed.
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Old 11-21-2020, 12:51 PM   #8
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Here are a couple pictures of sofa and cabinet removed for those interested.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:45 PM   #9
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Thank you for the pictures. We most likely be ordering something in the next week or so.
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Old 11-22-2020, 12:05 PM   #10
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Hey Roger give this a look.

https://youtu.be/dy0SadozU0I

We thought about doing this. If I knew we would keep ours long term I would think about it. It would open the front up a lot more for the wife and I. I worry about resale if I took the dinette out.
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Old 11-24-2020, 09:46 AM   #11
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We ordered ours the mahogany powered 67 in love seat. It should be here on Friday. So this will be my weekend project. We are camping in Florida for the winter and looking forward to sitting comfortable. We thought about changing the dinette around to take the table flip it 45 deg cutting it in half or so and then put a couple of free standing chairs in front of the table. Just loose the storage under the kitchen bench chairs. Thank you again for your pictures and info.
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Old 11-25-2020, 06:20 PM   #12
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Here are a few more pictures of my swap. I used some of the paneling that I removed to enclose exposed wires behind passenger seat. I move the seat belt anchors using the back up plates that Winnebago used. The other picture shows how I mounted the theater seats.

One of the other benefits of doing this is that the passenger seat can recline more than with the sofa.
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Old 11-26-2020, 09:30 AM   #13
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We gave away our couch and the stand behind it. I will have to get something to build for the wiring cover. Someone in the campground wanted it when we pulled it out and put it in front of the coach lol. We will be receiving it tomorrow. Thanks for all the pics it has been very helpful.
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We went with the power seats. Here are some pictures of the wiring before and after and the final project. Thank you again for all you advice and pictures.
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Old 11-29-2020, 02:04 PM   #15
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It looks good, I think you will enjoy it.
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Old 01-30-2022, 01:26 PM   #16
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Here are a couple pictures of sofa and cabinet removed for those interested.
How far back can you recline? could you have moved the chairs out a little for full reclinement? or does it hit the outside tv box?


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Old 01-30-2022, 02:54 PM   #17
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Robert, it is a give and take. I kept about the same walk through distance with the slide in. You can see in my pictures how far you can recline, the back of the chair hits the outside wall and the top of the outside tv enclosure. With the sofa and cabinet covering the tv enclosure removed you can play around with the final mounting location that suits you. I don't remember now how much more I would of had to move out to get the full recline. I have taken a few naps in the chair if that helps .
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Thanks, I was just wondering I know that the top of the tv box is 23" from the floor, and it sticks out 5" from the wall. I was trying to figure out if we should keep the back cover in place for the tv or not.
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The 2x4 that you have for the mounting, did you just screw the to the floor?
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