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Old 01-04-2019, 12:21 PM   #1
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Good morning, WOW so much information. First, we were looking for any recommendations for winter chains (as required to carry over passes), then went into sway bars.

We live north of Seattle and will hopefully be headed to Arizona in February and are concerned with going over the few passes south and will have to keep a good eye on road conditions as we travel south.


Does putting the air bag suspension void the warranty like the Sumo Springs or Kon Shocks?
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Old 01-04-2019, 12:28 PM   #2
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We are new owners of a 2014 24G. Welcome. When you make it to AZ we can swap stories around the campfire.

Happy Trails!
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:52 PM   #3
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We love or J and I have done a bunch to Drive Inn. I did Koni in the rear first and have the front ones in the shop to do next. I just plan on not going over and passes that can have ice. But if I were to get anything I would check the Sprinter manual and if cables are allowed use them. They are what we would carry for out vehicles when we had a mountain cabin. Lighter and smaller then chains.
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Old 01-04-2019, 08:24 PM   #4
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Heading south

We really prefer to avoid snow & ice on the road when we head south the end of February, the last two times we left the end of February we were lucky with the weather. However, we were pulling a trailer with a 6 speed truck. This View Winnebago "Lindy" is a new ball game for us. We've camped once to get familiar with it and really love it.

I called Mercedes-Benz Sprinter and they suggested the light truck chains (just in case)

We always check the road conditions before we head out, we would be going over the passes in Southern Oregon.
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Old 01-05-2019, 07:39 AM   #5
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Our View came with a set of these from the previous owner who lived in the Tahoe area;

https://www.amazon.com/Security-Chai.../dp/B000BRA6PQ
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:40 AM   #6
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Air bags are not needed and the addition of Sumo Springs or Koni shocks do not void any warranties. Get yourself a set of Snow Socks (google that) and forget about chains. If you have a problem with chains, they can do a lot of damage to your motorhome.
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:21 AM   #7
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Interesting snow tires

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Our View came with a set of these from the previous owner who lived in the Tahoe area;

https://www.amazon.com/Security-Chai.../dp/B000BRA6PQ
Have you ever used them? If you have do you just put them on the outside back tires.
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:25 AM   #8
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Have you ever used them? If you have do you just put them on the outside back tires.
We have not used them. We have only had our 24G for a few weeks and generally only venture to northern AZ and beyond during the summer months.

They do mount on the outside rear tires and are not rated for over 30 mph.
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:57 AM   #9
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Thanks, we probably would never use them but some state highways require to carry them when going over a pass. I just hate the thought of driving in snow & ice.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:36 AM   #10
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Thanks, we probably would never use them but some state highways require to carry them when going over a pass. I just hate the thought of driving in snow & ice.
We do also so we stay local to lower AZ in the winter time.

We could send you our set for the cost of shipping.
And maybe some summer (if we ever make it that way) we could park our 24G on your lot for a few days in exchange.

P.S. We added the front and rear Sumo Springs, Hellwig sway bar, and Koni shocks two weeks ago and they made a remarkable difference.
As we knew they would since we have added the same plus front and rear trac bars to our previous motorhomes.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:56 AM   #11
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When you added the springs, sway bar and shocks did it void the warranty?

In this forum I've seen pros/cons in doing this, but it would be nice to have a little smoother ride.

We bought the unit used with 15,000 miles on it and it still smells new.

24G 2015 View

We have a drive around driveway with RV hookup in the back...…..I'll let you know if and when we head to AZ it would be fun to meet you as another View owner. Our goal is somewhere around Chandler and would also like to head to Yuma. It all depends on the weather in Southern Or. & Northern Calif...…….going over the passes.

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Old 01-05-2019, 01:04 PM   #12
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We were not concerned with warranty coverage and our 2014 View 24G (ours came with 21,000 on the odometer) is actually built on a re-VIN-ed 2012 MB chassis. lol!

We are in north Phoenix and have a driveway at the house (HOA) where the View fits when loading and unloading for no more than 7 days with 20 amp hookup, water, and sewer.
Where we store ours is also in north Phoenix about 10 miles away at mom's house (no HOA) behind a gate. We have 50 amp there along with water and sewer, and another View would fit in front of the gate.

If you get your chassis parts ordered (you could send them here) Amazon has been stopping almost every day lol!)) you could stop for a night and we could get them installed if you make it to Chandler and Yuma. We are just a mile or two from the major freeways and sort of on the way between the two. We have a full tool set and floor jacks.

Have a great trip!
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Old 01-05-2019, 05:02 PM   #13
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If it were me..... I'd take a gradual approach. You want a "balanced", compliant, and supple suspension from the tires up.

First.... set the tire pressures no higher than the placard on the driver's door sill. You may be able to go lower a couple PSI. That is for the OEM tire size and Conti Vanco 4 Season tires. It is important to have some sidewall flex with a Sprinter.

2. Standard Sumo Springs (AKA Solos) F (blue) & R (black). If you ar towing a trailer or a dolly...you want the optiona, heavier Solos in the rear. Four down towing the "black" Solos will be fine. Standard Solos F & R will damp the fore and aft pitching motions that occur IF you make the rear suspension too firm.

3. Koni FSD (red) PN# 8805-1056 shocks on the rear. The OEM shocks are good for about 10K miles and that is stretching it. The FSDs are high tech shocks that selectively damp low and high frequency acceleration simultaneously. Frequency Selective Damping ...FSD. They are the mechanical, analog equivalent to high speed, electronic or magnetically adjustable shocks. They will provide the OEM shocks missing bounce control without harshness.

4. The OEM anti-roll bar is fine. Contributors on other forums have determined that a larger anti-roll bar will increase the amplitude of longitudinal rolling on the RV's long axis by coupling the jounce/rebound forces between the suspension and the body's high center of mass.

The above suggestions will improve the overall handling and give you more roll resistance to counteract, but not eliminate all but the very strongest wind effects and rocking without giving you a hard ride.
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Thanks, we probably would never use them but some state highways require to carry them when going over a pass. I just hate the thought of driving in snow & ice.
The best advice is to keep your speed reasonable for conditions and to avoid sudden changes in steering, braking, and acceleration. Any of those can cause the tires to loose traction and then you're just along for the ride until the rig stops on its own. Don't allow yourself to be distracted from the vitally important task of driving. Watch the road conditions, traffic flow, and even individual vehicles that could become a threat if the driver did something wrong. With enough practice and experience you can learn to anticipate when and where road conditions may become problematic. Also, install a wireless outside temperature sensor and display in the cockpit so you'll know when the temp drops to or below freezing and adjust your driving techniques accordingly. There have been countless accidents blamed on "black ice", but the real causes were inattention to any or all the conditions noted above. Have a safe trip!
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Ditto AKEagles' post. Going one farther and summing up...

Be situationally aware. Don't overdrive the situation or the capabilities of the RV. Plan for eventualities. Carry enough resources to weather a storm or eventuality. And, be "brave" enough to PARK IT! when conditions are unfavorable.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:15 AM   #16
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Thank you so much for your time in explaining the Suo Springs & Koni Shocks. It's greatly appreciated since we are coming from pulling a 23 foot trailer (lightweight) with a Dodge cummins 6 speed truck so this is a whole new ballgame. It's great to get all this information and figure out the best way to go for a safe and enjoyable ride.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:29 AM   #17
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Thank you for the offer, I will get in touch with you the first or second week of Feb. to let you know our plans. Currently, we have ordered a canopy to installed to cover the trailer (the View is under cover) and they said it might be about 10 weeks out before they can install which would be about the time we want to leave for AZ.

I love this forum so much information

Safe travels
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Ditto AKEagles' post. Going one farther and summing up...

Be situationally aware. Don't overdrive the situation or the capabilities of the RV. Plan for eventualities. Carry enough resources to weather a storm or eventuality. And, be "brave" enough to PARK IT! when conditions are unfavorable.
To illustrate Crow's last sentence, in the aviation world there is a syndrome called "get-home-it is". That's where despite all obvious indications - usually but not always weather related - that would dictate a safer course of action, the lure of wanting to reach the intended destination sometimes overrides training and common sense to the point that a no-win situation is the result. Example: flying into a cloud deck thinking it will just be momentary and you'll pop out on the other side, when it reality you find you're in a solid overcast that extends to the ground and you can't see more than a few hundred feet in any direction - and you're heading into a mountainous area. The upshot is that if fatigue, inclement weather, or other issues become a concern, don't hesitate to stop so you can SAFETY take stock of the situation and carefully plan accordingly.
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Old 01-07-2019, 07:48 PM   #19
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I really appreciate all the input on this forum. Back to the discussion on snow chains for the VIEW 24G (2015) Mercedes-Benz Sprinter chassis.p

My son suggested Spikes-Spiders...…….they use them in Europe, they are pricey if ordered from Europe but more reasonable in the States. I've talked to one person that has used them on their PT Cruiser (yes I know you can't compare that to our RV. Has anyone every used them on their RV. We will need to carry chains in order to go over the pass to comply with the State Patrol, but probably would opt to either wait until roads clear or turn around and go home.
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To illustrate Crow's last sentence, in the aviation world there is a syndrome called "get-home-it is". That's where despite all obvious indications - usually but not always weather related - that would dictate a safer course of action, the lure of wanting to reach the intended destination sometimes overrides training and common sense to the point that a no-win situation is the result. Example: flying into a cloud deck thinking it will just be momentary and you'll pop out on the other side, when it reality you find you're in a solid overcast that extends to the ground and you can't see more than a few hundred feet in any direction - and you're heading into a mountainous area. The upshot is that if fatigue, inclement weather, or other issues become a concern, don't hesitate to stop so you can SAFETY take stock of the situation and carefully plan accordingly.

So agree with you, we figure best to either regroup and turn around than proceed...……….
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