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Old 07-03-2019, 08:12 AM   #1
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We have a new 2019 View 24 D that did not come with auto leveling jacks . Our first motor home after years with various camper trailers . My question is , are auto leveling jacks necessary / helpful / worth the expense / can be added , etc. . The few trips we have been on so far we had to pull up on leveling blocks and at our age is a little difficult . And if we were to get them installed what are the best brands to consider ?


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Old 07-03-2019, 08:53 AM   #2
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Leveling jacks are nice but not mandatory. They are expensive ($4500 or so) and heavy (180 lbs) which degrades your OCCC. You can compensate somewhat by installing something like the LevelMatePro which tells you how much leveling you need at each wheel and using the lego type plastic leveling blocks. Usually a fast, easy process and right the first time.

If you decide to go for levelers, HWH seems to be the most popular. You would buy them though Lichtsinn RV in Forest City (you get a discount) and have them installed at the HWH factory in Moscow, IA. Other popular levelers are Big Foot and Equalizer brands. All of them work well.
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Old 07-03-2019, 10:40 AM   #3
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Our 31D came equiped with HWH jacks and I wouldn't be without them. In an earlier lifetime, we used the yellow plastic blocks but this is much easier. We put heavy (made from old tires) pads under them before we put them down. What I like is the added stability after the RV is set up, less rocking and rolling.
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Old 07-05-2019, 05:17 PM   #4
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We are new 2019 22m owners and have a suggestion. We just put a set of 5000lb air bags on the rear suspension and with 35 psi air the coach rear is now level, it handles much better especially in crosswinds or passing semi's. I purposely installed separae air lines so I can level left and right as well as front to rear depending on load configuration and if we ever tow anything the headlights will not be in the sky. We also noticed that there is now little to no movement now in the bedroom/bath and I doubt we will ever even use the leveling jacks that came on it. I bought the air bags on ebay for $264 no tax/free shipping when they had a 8% back promotion and a local off road tire store did the installation for 2 hrs labor or $170 so my grand total is about $420. I believe this type of investment would be better than buying leveling jacks
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Old 07-05-2019, 11:15 PM   #5
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Hey there TATANKA01,

Mind sharing what make & model of air bags you bought? I've a 2018 22M on a E 450 chassis and might consider air bags if not too costly.

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Old 07-06-2019, 08:18 AM   #6
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Posters 3,4, and 5: The OP has a View. What you might do on your E450 Ford Chassis motorhomes is kind of irrelevant to his situation. I suggest you start a new topic to discuss leveling systems on the E450 chassis.
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Old 07-06-2019, 10:30 AM   #7
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See eBay item number:233240290415 they still have item for sale
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:41 PM   #8
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I installed a Bigfoot leveling system. The weight is 80#'s more than the stabilizing standard jacks that the View's now come with. It was worth it to me because of just pushing a few buttons. Bigfoot Platinum System For Mercedes Benz Class-C
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Old 07-07-2019, 02:08 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the information . I was reading a thread about Sumo Springs on a M.B. Sprinter rear suspension . Helps with the crosswinds and sway . Any opinions ?
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:19 PM   #10
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Equalizer

Immediately after purchasing our 2017 24G we scheduled Equalizer to install their Auto Level System which was the 1st one they did.
The system works very well. My wife doesn't line any movement at night and I like the ease of leveling the unit.
We would recommend them to anyone
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:20 PM   #11
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I'm retired and have automatic levelers. Wouldn't be without them now. Press the button to lower, wait a few minutes and you're done. Press a button to retract. If you are moving around with some frequency they're worth it!
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We have a 2018 24D and I have looked extensively at suspension upgrades and the auto levelers. The auto levelers are absolutely wonderful but as stated above they are pricey (~$5,000) and they add “a lot of weight” relative to your OCCC. You only have 1,100 lbs with the 24D and the auto levelers - even when you take off the stabilizers - are going to add anywhere between 150 to 200 pounds. At the end of the day you will be overweight. But… Most Views are overweight or at least very close to it. We did not add the auto leveler’s even though the convenience was very attractive simply because of the weight issue. The model we looked at was the HWH as stated above. The install should be arranged through Lichtsinn - they do a tremendous job.

As for suspension upgrades there are three steps I would recommend looking at. We did the Sumo Springs front and back first, followed by the Hellwig sway bar. In retrospect I would do the Hellwig first, see what that did and then add the Sumo Springs if you feel you need more stability. But for us both made a tremendous improvement in the sway and the stability of the coach, (but the ride is stiffer and we noticed a slight increase in road noise). I would recommend both. The third option is to upgrade the OEM suspension springs in the back. Good luck. We love our unit.
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Old 07-10-2019, 06:01 PM   #13
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I'm 76 wife and now traveling Alaska for the summer no jacks less hassle . I have 4 pieces of 2 x 10, ft n half long and have only had to use 3 times so far in 5 wks . The little bit of wobble while parked is a lot easier to take then $4000.00 to install jacks The boards are way better than those plastic squares.
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Reduce the jiggle!

The air bags on rear would be less weight, improve handling assist in stiffening the suspension and perhaps can be used for pseudo leveling. The additional complexity and weight of a hydraulic leveling system is well priceless to some and pricey to others as well as the fact that it adds a lot of weight and increases the already complex by assembler/manufacturer designers. We had it on one RV but found it not so useful as to leveling it did act as a jiggle reducer. Most sites these days tend to be level enough not to throw the fridge into tantrums.



Camping world has a stabilization gizmo for the bumper, which reduces the jiggle to a non issue. We have used that a little but not much, comes in handy when you have a large dog or older grand children moving about but else the stiffer suspension via air bag is plenty good.


Why add that much weight to carry around when you can do with less, and enjoy better handling, braking, sprints and strain your transmission and engine a little less.
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