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02-02-2017, 11:47 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 13
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Winnebago Journey friends- Tire help
Hi All,
another tire question that has been asked i'm sure many times.
I am a newbie to the diesel pusher family. I have a 2004 Winnebago Journey
39K. Bought used from dealership 1 yr ago. Front tires are new however, back 4 need to be replaced. They are the 255/80R 22.5 size XRV Michellin's,, you know , the ones that must be dipped in gold because of the price .
Can I replace with the 265/75R 22.5 ?? With no clearance problems anywhere?
Most my local tire dealerships are scratching their heads.
Thank you all in advance
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02-02-2017, 12:12 PM
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Winnebago Watcher
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Alberta
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I have 265/75R 22.5 Toyo M154's all 'round on my 2004 Journey with no problems at all.
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2004 Winnebago Journey 36G 330Cat
2004 Grand Cherokee BlueOx
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02-02-2017, 12:18 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Saluda, NC
Posts: 5
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I replaced all my tires with Goodyear
G-661 HSA
265/75Rx22.5
Almost exactly the same size as the Mich. tire
jim
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Jim and Ellen Allred and Biscuit
2011 Winnebago Itasca Ellipse 42QD
450 Cummins, Jeep Wrangler, Blue Ox
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02-02-2017, 12:35 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 2,169
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Had a 2002 Journey and replaced the OEM XRV's with 275/70/22.5. No clearance issues on front or rear.
Do yourself a favor and look into Hankook AH-12's. Great tries and lower cost than Michelin.
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'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
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02-02-2017, 01:40 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Saddlebrooke, AZ
Posts: 213
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Quote:
Originally Posted by actionron
Hi All,
another tire question that has been asked i'm sure many times.
I am a newbie to the diesel pusher family. I have a 2004 Winnebago Journey
39K. Bought used from dealership 1 yr ago. Front tires are new however, back 4 need to be replaced. They are the 255/80R 22.5 size XRV Michellin's,, you know , the ones that must be dipped in gold because of the price .
Can I replace with the 265/75R 22.5 ?? With no clearance problems anywhere?
Most my local tire dealerships are scratching their heads.
Thank you all in advance
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Take a look at this web site:
https://tiresize.com/comparison/
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2009 WGO Tour 40TD
2012 Honda Fit Sport 5sp
Saddlebrooke, AZ
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02-02-2017, 04:15 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 8
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I have a new to me Journey 327. Thw rear tires are only two years old. The steer axle tires need to be replaced. They have side wall checking' All are Michilens. Could the fronts be replaces with the same size but a different brand? They are all 235/80x22.5.
Bob
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02-02-2017, 06:40 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 13
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thanks. if i replace rear 4 tires with Toyo will it negatively affect yhe 2 newer steer tires that are michellin 255-80r 22.5
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02-02-2017, 06:44 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 560
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As long as the weight capacity is the same or higher, diameter isn't too much larger or smaller and the dual spacing is good then go ahead.
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Charter Lifetime GS Member, SKP, FMCA,
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '14 CR-V
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02-02-2017, 08:08 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Full time RV'er
Posts: 1,174
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Absolutely. They are almost identical twins...
Tire Size Calculator
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02-03-2017, 05:46 AM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 181
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I have 265/75R 22.5 154 Toyo's all around on my 02 Journey. Great tire,great price.
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02-03-2017, 08:08 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 13
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Taking a hard look at the Toyo 265/75R 22.5 M154Z's....One tire shop says I wont notice the difference and I shouldn't worry about safety or performance..Other 2 tires shops tell me they are NOT a RV tire they are a commercial truck tire and i'll lose ride and handling.
oy vey, $2750.00 Michellins vs $1850.00 Toyos . I only put around 4-5000 miles a yr on the coach
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02-03-2017, 08:55 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by actionron
Taking a hard look at the Toyo 265/75R 22.5 M154Z's....One tire shop says I wont notice the difference and I shouldn't worry about safety or performance..Other 2 tires shops tell me they are NOT a RV tire they are a commercial truck tire and i'll lose ride and handling.
oy vey, $2750.00 Michellins vs $1850.00 Toyos . I only put around 4-5000 miles a yr on the coach
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Ours are 19.5s but i expect the results to be similar to the 22.5 sizes. Didn't change tire size but after looking at the high price of the Michelins, i decided to shop around to see what else was available. Read lots of reviews and finally decided to go with Bridgestones. They're general purpose, medium duty truck type tires good for either axle. Only thing i've found different is that they seem to ride a bit firmer than the Michelins. For the almost $800 saved, i'm a happy camper!
As far as changing to the 265s, they are a wider tire. Not by much but something you would want to look at on the rear axle. Not sure what a minimum spacing would be but i'd bet it's easy to find out.
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03 Itasca Sunova, 8.1 Workhorse on a P32 chassis
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02-03-2017, 04:07 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 2,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by actionron
Taking a hard look at the Toyo 265/75R 22.5 M154Z's....One tire shop says I wont notice the difference and I shouldn't worry about safety or performance..Other 2 tires shops tell me they are NOT a RV tire they are a commercial truck tire and i'll lose ride and handling.
oy vey, $2750.00 Michellins vs $1850.00 Toyos . I only put around 4-5000 miles a yr on the coach
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IMO, ignore the tire shops telling you to avoid any tire because 'it is a commercial truck tire.' Most of these tires are commercial truck tires designed for all wheel positions. There are many motorhome owners running and happy with Toyo, Hankook, Bridgestone, Continental, B.F. Goodrich and other 'commercial truck tires.'
When I took the Michelin XRV's off my 2002 Journey and replaced them with Hankook AH-12's (commercial truck tire for regional use), the coach handled and rode much better.
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'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
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02-18-2017, 09:58 AM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 13
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Man i am so confused. Was pretty much convinced I was going with Toyo to replace the Michelin 255 8r 22.5's. Then was considering the hankook. Then i found the michelins on a website called simpletire.com for 332.00 each.. And Now my tire guy is talking to me about Sumitomo....My wife says i over research ...i think she's right
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02-18-2017, 01:03 PM
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Winnebago Master
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Glen Allen, VA
Posts: 2,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by actionron
Man i am so confused. Was pretty much convinced I was going with Toyo to replace the Michelin 255 8r 22.5's. Then was considering the hankook. Then i found the michelins on a website called simpletire.com for 332.00 each.. And Now my tire guy is talking to me about Sumitomo....My wife says i over research ...i think she's right
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Agree with your DW. Bottom line, most any of the major brand commercial truck tires are going to work just fine on your coach. So, pick something from those brands you listed and let the out the door price be your guide. Just make sure whomever sells you the tires doesn't try and stick you with tires that have been laying around for a long time. When I last bought new tires (Hankook AH-12), I told the shop manager I would not accept any tire with a DOT code more than 6 months old.
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'07 Country Coach Allure 470 Siskiyou Summit #31578, Cummins ISL 425; 2014 Ford F150 toad; Air Force One Toad Brake.
Glen Allen, VA; Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
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02-18-2017, 02:38 PM
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Winnebago Camper
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 13
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Thanks smlranger
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02-18-2017, 07:17 PM
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Winnebago Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 227
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Toyo, Hankook, Continental, Yokohama, Firestone, etc. are all good tires. Buy any of them from a dealer you like for service/installation and decent price. I recently moved from Michelin's to Firestone's ST591. The out the door price was with a couple hundred bucks across brands when comparing apples to apples. I went with the dealer I had experience with and spoke the most common sence. He got freshest tire dates for me by pulling a set from Firestone warehouse, as the ones they had in stock were ~six months old.
I appreciate how confusing talking to tire dealers can be. One dealer would not put anything but Michelin's on since that was OEM on the coach. Another was pushing a Toyo tires in load range G when I had H, saying it would be fine. He did not bother to ask my axle weights... But they would be fine, he had them in stock, and could install them today. Neither of these dealers got my business...
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Vince and Susan
2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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02-24-2017, 05:24 PM
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Winnie-Wise
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 352
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Just replaced all six of my Michelins 255/80/22.5 (8 years old) with guess what...? Michelins again...! Love 'em!
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