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Old 07-19-2018, 03:25 PM   #1
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Vista 27n "Cheap Handling Fix"

I was wondering if any vista owners have modified their chassis with the "cheap handling fix'?
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:27 PM   #2
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We have an F53 chassis but have not done the "CHF", though it is a very popular mod.
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Old 07-19-2018, 07:10 PM   #3
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We have a 2010 Vista 32k. I have done the CHF - both front and rear, with good results and NO problems in over 8k miles. I also di a diy rear trackbar. Another big plus, in my book.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:28 AM   #4
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I called Ford motorhome division and asked their take on the CHF. No problems, no issues with warranty so I did the front and rear. The improvement was dramatic. Significantly reduced body roll in curves, significantly reduced rocking entering/exiting gas stations, etc. And a marked improvement in wind and passing truck stability. I had intended to install a rear track bar, but after 2K miles since the CHF, I'm not convinced I need it, maybe someday, but so far, so good.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:46 AM   #5
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I've got a different model than the OP (32K), but with an F53 chassis to me it's a no-brainer. There is a post on iRV2.com with about a bazillion people that have done it with good results. When any mod you want to do on an RV normally starts at about $500 why not go for a free fix. I was able to connect with TeJay on the forum who was making some plates (I think about $50) that would allow you to keep the stock geometry while moving the link to the other hole. All in all the fix took me about an hour from getting the tools out to putting them away. (this is front and back sway bars).


I followed the CHF up with a rear track bar last summer and SUMO springs in March of this year along with new front shocks (Bilstein). THE CHF has about 19K miles on it, swaybar about 10K and Sumo's 3K. Since I didn the CHF pretty early on I have pretty much forgotten what it was like without them (only drove it a few times without). The biggest change seemed to come from the track bar. That settled the rear of the rv a ton.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:53 PM   #6
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I did CHF front and rear on my 2015 Vista 27N, made a huge improvement.

I was still not quite satisfied and further improved the driving experience with a Safe-T-Steer steering stablizer. It helps hold the front wheels straight but the power steering easily overrides it so turning is still the same effort. After Safe-T-Steer I can let go of the steering wheel and it still tracks straight, without Safe-T-Steer letting go of the steering wheel was something you could never do on my F53 without a change in direction happening.
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I have a 2016 Sunstar LX 27N, which I believe is almost identical to your Vista chassis. I did the CHF on the front and rear, and as others have said, a big improvement. I used TJ's adapter plates on the front which made it a lot easier to install. I have the Roadmaster Steering Stabilizer installed (came with the MH), and between it and the CHF, can't think of anything else I need.
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Thanks for all the good responses. CW
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Old 07-24-2018, 07:33 AM   #9
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I did the CHF on all 3 of my gassers in the past adn really noticed a big difference in ride, sway and steering. On my last Tiffin 32A I had the mechanic do front and back sway bars, It was al little harder to do on the front because of the Tiffin design but once done it drove like a breeze, but nothing like my new to me '07 Itasca Meridian 34H.

You won't notice the big rig push and pull as much or the leaning when you take the corners. I wholly recommend it.

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Thanks for the info.
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Old 07-24-2018, 09:26 PM   #11
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The poster on this thread that said Ford said CHF is a Ford approved chassis modification. Did you get it in writing? Can you share the official written communication from Ford please? I ask because I talked to the Winnebago F53 Chassis lead engineer today at the Winnebago Grand National Rally and he says that Ford told Winnebago they could not change the sway bar configuration to the inner position A.K.A. our Cheap Handling Fix when making Winnebagos with the F53. That's why even though Winnebago knows that Class A RVs made with the Ford F53 have sway problems, they don't do CHF at the factory when making coaches. They do put steering stablizers on some of the higher cost Class A models.
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The poster on this thread that said Ford said CHF is a Ford approved chassis modification. Did you get it in writing? Can you share the official written communication from Ford please? I ask because I talked to the Winnebago F53 Chassis lead engineer today at the Winnebago Grand National Rally and he says that Ford told Winnebago they could not change the sway bar configuration to the inner position A.K.A. our Cheap Handling Fix when making Winnebagos with the F53. That's why even though Winnebago knows that Class A RVs made with the Ford F53 have sway problems, they don't do CHF at the factory when making coaches. They do put steering stablizers on some of the higher cost Class A models.
I called and spoke to their motor home division technical support/warranty service department on the phone. Nothing in writing and yes I understand the point. I see no reason to believe they would be less than truthful in answering my concerns on the topic. Was told Ford is well aware of the number of owners doing this adjustment, and knew right away what the CHF is. No different than installing aftermarket sway bars, track bars or steering stabilizers. A good conversation that made me comfortable doing the adjustment. I was very apprehensive about doing it too which is why I called. The improvement is so dramatic that I only regret waiting as long as I did.

Perhaps others could call and see if they receive the same reply? I can only relate my personal experience on the subject.
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I have an Itasca Sunstar 27N. Before my first trip I had a Steering Stabilizer installed. It was a slight improvement, but still a bit worry some on a cross country trip. When I returned I found a bad right front shock (leaking). Ford replaced it and on the way home I could feel the difference. The next long trip I had a Roadmaster rear sway bar installed and had much better handling was noticeable on good highways, but still cross winds, trucks and inconsistent road crowns were still touchy....but better. With 22K miles I did the CHF and have only driven down to get the oil changed and back.....but I could feel the difference. I think I will do the track bar, then shocks etc etc. Hopefully before I wear it out I'll be able to drive it comfortably.......like I had expected. It's better but not yet "good".
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