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Old 01-10-2019, 04:08 PM   #1
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Stuck Wheel Simulator Bolts

I've tried a number of times to get the wheel simulators off the rear wheels of my 2011 Sunstar, with no success. I've bent the handle on the piece of crap removal tool trying to loosen the two nuts. They don't budge.

Does anyone know the size socket required to remove these so I can get a proper tool to do the job?
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1-1/8 will fit the top of the nut but it’s tapered so I didn’t try with the one I have. I ended up taking a crescent wrench with the factory tool head to get them off.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:03 AM   #3
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1-1/8 will fit the top of the nut but itís tapered so I didnít try with the one I have. I ended up taking a crescent wrench with the factory tool head to get them off.
I'll give that a try, though on the rear wheels the nuts are recessed way in so getting access with the crescent wrench may be difficult.
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:55 PM   #4
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Only 2 of them come off, the others are fixed. The ones that come off have dimples on the side. I also had to use a socket to get them off (donít remember the size). After getting them off, I smeared a little white grease on the bottom of them before reinstalling. That helped a lot for future removal.

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I've tried a number of times to get the wheel simulators off the rear wheels of my 2011 Sunstar, with no success. I've bent the handle on the piece of crap removal tool trying to loosen the two nuts. They don't budge.

Does anyone know the size socket required to remove these so I can get a proper tool to do the job?
On my 2004 Minnie, which probably has the same ones, I have found the removal tool is worthless (except for when putting back on). As Dwaugh10 points out only two are removable and you can't always see the dimples. For mine I use a 1 1/8 socket with 1/2 inch rachet drive and 8 " extender. Tap on the fake nuts, they will ring hollow. The nuts that are removable give a solid thud. Use the removal tool that came with the wheel simulators for putting the nuts back on. It's use will prevent you from overtightening the fake nut. They are only on with just over a thread and can easily be stripped.
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Wheel simulator jam nuts

Those nuts are called jam nuts. A metal nut is inside the fake nut body. They are supposed to be hand tightened, but tire stores are notorious for using an impact tool when they put the nuts back on. I've had them do that even after telling them to be sure not to do it. Anyway, that makes them impossible to remove with the hand tool provided by Winnebago. Now, when I go to get tire work done, I just go ahead and remove the wheel simulators before I leave for the tire store and put them back on and tighten them with the hand tool when I return.

As mentioned before, get a 1 1/8 socket, I found that I needed a deep socket because my regular socket bottomed out before going all the way down on the nut body. You can use an extension and a pull handle or an impact wrench. Or, you can just go to a tire store and get them broken loose, then tighten them with the hand tool yourself.
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I think you have 22.5 wheels and the fake nuts are 1 9/16
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I ended up getting a 1 1/8" socket for a 1" drive so I could use my torque multiplier to get the nuts off.

When I put the wheel simulators back on I'll put a bit of grease on the nuts and use the little Winnebago tool.
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I think you have 22.5 wheels and the fake nuts are 1 9/16
I've got 19.5 wheels and the fake nuts are 1 1/8".
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